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soorya

India
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Posted - Jan 25 2017 :  05:52:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear Blanche,

Sorry for a slightly lengthy post.

I went for a mid career b-school program 3 years ago, there was a session where one of the coaches guided a group of us through a visualisation technique where I would like to see myself 10 years from now.

All I could see was a "younger me" animatedly talking to an "older me" by a nice breezy sea side. The "older me" looked still and unperturbed by all the talking done by the younger one and had a certain glow, confidence, compassion and stability that I was blown away by it.

This kind of "seeing the things as they are" - without getting affected by it was what I realized I was aspiring for. A bit of an "AHA' moment.

In my daily living, I was a passionate, slightly over the top emotional individual (still am to a certain extent!) who was breezing through life rather compulsively. Worked well, but there was no inner silence, so to speak.

Meditation seemed to be the natural choice to progress on this path, and calm myself down a bit.

So the reason for starting meditaton was purely for practical reasons like "wellbeing" etc - and made a world of difference in the way I interact in my work and personal life. Infact, in the wordly sense, meditation has helped me achieve better success in work and personal life.

After reading AYP, I reflected further and got the clarity that the "older me" was more representing the Yogani's "abiding inner silence" and "stillness in action" - and reminded me of spirituality that I was aware of since childhood.

The ishta still remains the same - "seeing the things as they are" - and having a ball in life in whatever I do. And DM is helping me making the baby steps. Long way to go !
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Jayleno214

USA
80 Posts

Posted - Jan 28 2017 :  01:35:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I experienced repeated positively intense openings through Ecstasy/MDMA pills in high school, and I knew with absolute certainty that my being/body should/could be experiencing this, if not something similar without the drug So i spent about a year or two online searching and searching, and found some other 'mystic' and guru websites before this one.


the way these lessons are written, you can taste the peace and ecstatic-ness in the author, and i knew he understood me and where i wanted to go, not to mention the lessons took me there, hence whey i havent stopped 6+ years.

very valid question. i want the answer too. many of my family members could use the benefits (who wouldnt though right)and although ive disclosed my practice (some even said "i knew there was something to you that i couldnt figure out") and encouraged them to pursue it, they havent even tried once.
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Nirguna

Australia
18 Posts

Posted - Jan 28 2017 :  10:35:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
BHAKTI!!!
And experiences, progress on the way. Following little crumbs along. First, preview what is about to come and then stabilising in that. If nothing new is happening for a while, then adding more to existing practice.... and so on....
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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  08:35:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
I am happy to report that when asked how many meditated regularly, most of the people in the course (28 in total) raised their hands. This is a big change, as in September only a handful of people reported a regular meditation. Again, went through basic DM importance, explanations, and practice. At the end, besides the handout with the AYP website and other notes, everyone got a 10 week calendar, and a sheet with 40 stickers. They were invited to a 40 day meditation challenge. Thank you all for advice!
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Ecdyonurus

Switzerland
479 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  09:38:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
well done, Blanche!

By the way, I forgot to mention an aspect that in my case was and still is quite relevant: don't take meditation/spirituality too seriously, have a playful and open approach to it like a child would.
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Charliedog

1075 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  3:20:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Blanche
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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  9:47:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by soorya

Dear Blanche,
All I could see was a "younger me" animatedly talking to an "older me" by a nice breezy sea side. The "older me" looked still and unperturbed by all the talking done by the younger one and had a certain glow, confidence, compassion and stability that I was blown away by it.


Dear Soorya,
Thank you for the post. It looks like you got a first hand experience that "the guru is in you." You insight induced by the visualization went deep. What visualization exercise did you practice?
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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  10:10:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Jayleno214

the way these lessons are written, you can taste the peace and ecstatic-ness in the author, and i knew he understood me and where i wanted to go, not to mention the lessons took me there, hence whey i havent stopped 6+ years.

very valid question. i want the answer too. many of my family members could use the benefits (who wouldnt though right)and although ive disclosed my practice (some even said "i knew there was something to you that i couldnt figure out") and encouraged them to pursue it, they havent even tried once.



Hi Jayleno214,
You are very perceptive. Yes, just reading the AYP lessons could put one in a silent ecstatic state. We do resonate with the writer. You might discover that the same is true when you read other spiritual books.

As about getting others to engage in spiritual practices, it seems to depend on each person's own inner timetable. I offer advice and support only when I am asked. The people who are coming to the yoga course chose to do it on their own accord, so I would like to offer them as much support as possible for their yoga practice.

Some of my friends and relatives practice meditation and/or other yoga techniques. However, most of them are not interested in it, so I do not even talk about the subject.

Chances are that as you progress on the path, you will become an inspiration for the people around you, and you will attract others with similar interests. People need a certain clarity to take up DM.

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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  10:12:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Nirguna

BHAKTI!!!
And experiences, progress on the way. Following little crumbs along. First, preview what is about to come and then stabilising in that. If nothing new is happening for a while, then adding more to existing practice.... and so on....



Ah, Nirguna, where can I get some bhakti seeds to intoxicate everyone?
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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  10:15:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Ecdyonurus

By the way, I forgot to mention an aspect that in my case was and still is quite relevant: don't take meditation/spirituality too seriously, have a playful and open approach to it like a child would.



Good point, Ecdyonurus. A playful, easy attitude keeps everything flowing. And when the silence flows, that is bliss.
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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Jan 31 2017 :  10:17:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Charliedog
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Will Power

Spain
345 Posts

Posted - Feb 25 2017 :  3:51:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi blanche,

For me, the 4 thoughts (i.e. impermanence)to reorient the mind as taught in dharmasun.org were very helpful.

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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Feb 26 2017 :  07:23:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Will Power,

Thank you for input. It is interesting how we get what we need.
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SuperTrouper

USA
43 Posts

Posted - Mar 15 2017 :  5:22:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
When I started, I made the conscious choice to give yoga and meditation an earnest effort before writing it off. That quickly proved to me that training in attentional skills (whether insight or concentration) held the promise of something deeper that so many had written about, and I wanted to discover and experience the deeper promise for myself. This was after reading PY's autobiography of a yogi, still my absolute favorite book I've ever read.
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Will Power

Spain
345 Posts

Posted - Mar 21 2017 :  8:37:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I mistranslated them. They are called the 4 Mind Changings.

quote:
Originally posted by Will Power

Hi blanche,

For me, the 4 thoughts (i.e. impermanence)to reorient the mind as taught in dharmasun.org were very helpful.



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soorya

India
2 Posts

Posted - Mar 26 2017 :  10:38:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:


Dear Soorya,
Thank you for the post. It looks like you got a first hand experience that "the guru is in you." You insight induced by the visualization went deep. What visualization exercise did you practice?



quote:

Dear Soorya,
Thank you for the post. It looks like you got a first hand experience that "the guru is in you." You insight induced by the visualization went deep. What visualization exercise did you practice?



Dear Blanche,

The exercise was carried out by a professional coach for a group of people.

Thinking about it, I can't recall anything except that I went deep into it, and only thing I remember is the older me and younger me. I think it was a fairly simple guidance. Will get back if I get a better recall of the technique.

Many thanks for the encouragement.


Soorya
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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Mar 26 2017 :  10:26:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Soorya,
Thank you for your answer.

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Blanche

USA
313 Posts

Posted - Mar 26 2017 :  10:37:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Super Trouper,

Inspired by your and other people's testimony on the impact of spiritual books, I started to bring a new book to each class. Sometimes I make personal recommendations. Students seem to enjoy reading, and this creates another level of communication.
Thank you for your input!
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