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Coolwater1
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 Posted - May 15 2013 : 07:19:32 AM
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Hi everybody,
I was really glad to find topics on meditation induced tinnitus in this forum but I found nothing on faints and strong anxiety, so I decided to start a new topic and I hope that you can help me.
I'm a 24-year-old student from Germany and I started meditating about 2 years ago. After about 3-4 weeks of meditating every morning, I fainted during meditation. From then on I had a 4-week-period of horror because I felt so weak and I lied in bed all the time with a strong tinnitus, and especially in the mornings I felt strong inexplicable anxiety in addition to the tinnitus and the weakness that I had.
Then about a year later, I decided that I start meditating again. And again after a couple of days during meditation I felt that I was about to faint, so I stopped immediately, my hands were very red and again I had a tinnitus and anxiety every morning for a week or so.
Now I started again a couple of days ago and again I have this tinnitus and anxiety every morning. I figured that since I do cardio workout now, my blood circulation should be better and that that would possibly solve the problem, but it doesn't.
If it was only the tinnitus, I would just keep meditating. But the anxiety and especially the faints are holding me back.
I would be really really grateful if somebody could tell me why that happens and what I can do about it.
Best wishes
David
PS: I went to several doctors from different departments and they all said I was absolutely healthy. |
Edited by - AYPforum on May 15 2013 3:33:25 PM |
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - May 14 2013 : 9:31:58 PM
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Hi Coolwater1 and welcome
what kind of meditation you do? |
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Coolwater1
Germany
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Posted - May 15 2013 : 3:27:56 PM
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Hi maheswari,
I sit down on a chair leaning back comfortably, but I keep an erect spine. I mostly observe my bodily sensations but I also observe my breath and try to be very present and free of thought. I would say it's vipassana meditation but actually I didn't really study the subject of meditation. All I know about meditation and spirituality is what I read in the books "8 Minute Meditation" by Victor Davich and "The Power of Now" and "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle. |
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AYPforum
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Posted - May 15 2013 : 3:33:25 PM
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - May 16 2013 : 02:02:05 AM
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so medically you are ok
do your symptoms calm down soon enough after you stop your practices?for how long you observe your breath?
it is obvious that you are over sensitive since even breath meditation is over loading you
so avoid mantra meditation
and avoid breath meditation
i suggest that you stop all practices for some time, ground yourself a lot ....i m quoting a recent post by Jim and his Karma where he explains very well what you should do:
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Ground yourself, sharply reduce practice timings, walk, do worldly stuff, eat heavy, exercise, engage in moderate sexual release. Basically do the opposite of all the stuff people do when they get "spiritual". Talking, not silence. Engagement, not solitude. Essentially: self-pace your surrendering
Later on when you feel ready to practice again , you can check this thread:
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....PIC_ID=12918
maybe the do nothing mediation will suits you just fine
hope this helps
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Coolwater1
Germany
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Posted - May 16 2013 : 07:13:26 AM
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Wow thank you maheswari, that really makes sense and I'm definitely gonna give it a try.
My symptoms calm down pretty quickly after I stop the meditation. But they are the strongest when I wake up in the morning. I would just feel extremely vulnerable for no reason.
When I meditate, I observe my breath and my body sensations for 5-10 minutes. |
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - May 16 2013 : 1:41:02 PM
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My symptoms calm down pretty quickly after I stop the meditation. But they are the strongest when I wake up in the morning. I would just feel extremely vulnerable for no reason.
since the symptoms calm down it is overload,not the drama of premature kundalini awakening...yet overload and over sensitivity are serious things and can not be ignored otherwise the consequences will be bad....so proceed as suggested ie stop all practices for now... several weeks at least....then in case you feel an inner call to resume meditation you can try Adyashanti meditation...
and yes overload is always accompanied by extreme fatigue in the morning....
take care |
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Coolwater1
Germany
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Posted - May 16 2013 : 2:57:53 PM
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| Thank you very much for your help, maheswari |
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chicritter
Australia
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Posted - Jun 23 2013 : 9:41:52 PM
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I know exactly what these symptoms are like. I also had a friend on a retreat, he actually started heaving for air and collapsed whilst he was meditating with empty mind. i had to hold him up.
I'm at the point i still get the anxiety symptom occasionally, but is seems to very slowly be converting to excitement or bliss over time.
I have not found a cure for it, but stopping meditation completely helps and doing a lot of grounding things. |
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seek123
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Posted - Jul 01 2013 : 07:09:00 AM
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 . Namastey, Coolwater1. I know of someone who experienced faints for 45-50 seconds at a time. He would not be able to stand on his own when the faint came and would have to immediately sit down or lie down. He would experience himself vibrating within his own body and the form of vibrating body was same as external body, only it was like his astral body within the gross body). The vibrations were like huge jolts of fine vibrations within, not visible to external observer. Body identification would vanish for this period only to return after the experience.
These faints were accompanied by loud tinnitus that would remain at very very slight levels afterwards.
Please see if this description of faintness has any resemblance to yours. If yes, I could help sharing these experiences more elaborately.  God bless all |
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Sanjeev
India
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Posted - Jul 07 2013 : 12:11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Coolwater1
If it was only the tinnitus, I would just keep meditating. But the anxiety and especially the faints are holding me back.
Like others have said, you seem to be oversensitive and simply focusing for a few minutes skyrockets your energy. The ringing noise in ears is most surely highly active energy. I'm guessing that the overload causes fainting or ejection of consciousness out of the body. Its something one would want but not without control or without awareness.
I'm one of the oversensitive kinds and I'm also hoping that the scary symptoms will go away. From my experience I can say that stopping the practice totally works. You can surely try other things like a different techniques, but these will not relieve you in my opinion. Stopping works best.
When you feel healthy again (which you already are physically), you can take small steps, like meditation with physical yoga or meditating only for a minute. Schedule it once every week, hopefully that will be not too much. Later make it twice a week and still later alternate days. It make take many months to find your comfortable pace and duration.
You might also like to read everything about AYP here. Its very helpful. |
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parvati9
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Posted - Jul 07 2013 : 10:53:46 AM
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Originally posted by Sanjeev
When you feel healthy again (which you already are physically), you can take small steps, like meditation with physical yoga or meditating only for a minute. Schedule it once every week, hopefully that will be not too much. Later make it twice a week and still later alternate days. It make take many months to find your comfortable pace and duration.
Hi Sanjeev
This is very excellent advice for the oversensitive. I too am one of the oversensitive types and have found that moving meditation, or combining meditation with physical activity, works very well..in that it effectively releases most of the potential overload out of the body via exercise. From my experience, any kind of routine sitting meditation for more than a few minutes at a time, causes extreme ungroundedness. Even for a few minutes it can become a strain, and often it is necessary to do a grounding followup to alleviate overload symptoms.
Thank you for your post.
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chicritter
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