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Posted - Nov 04 2019 :  2:25:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
PMB: sorry for your troubles. Stop all spiritual practices, eat a heavier diet, and learn to ground yourself:
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Posted - Nov 05 2019 :  11:34:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Originally posted by Stille
We are very fortunate that there are many traditions and clear written records containing very precise instructions for us to follow.

We are indeed.

I too think that Christianity has lost its practices. See Gnostic Gospel of Thomas (13). It suggests Jesus was giving his disciples practices when they were ready for them. They were supposed to keep them secret i.e. not even share them with other disciples.

So Christians are left with a very inspiring Ishta, but sadly no practices. As we know, bhakti is rarely enough for spiritual progress, unless it drives you to seek an effective practice.
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Posted - Nov 06 2019 :  12:00:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Guys - you are very, very wrong. Christians may appear to have to no fancy practices like yoga ones but they do just fine. I come from a catholic family, that did not work for me so I turned to AYP. My sisters remain strong in their faith and community. They know nothing of non-dual reality and all the fancy talk but they are 10x the person I am!!! Their service to others, the goodness of their hearts put me to shame.

So please....

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Posted - Nov 06 2019 :  04:45:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
If we assume that serious Christians, who do have a really strong faith, engage in loads of karma yoga - the question remains: is that enough to realise truth/god/cosmic conciousness in an experiential way? (in a reasonable period of time; e.g. this lifetime).

All the yogic practises are aimed at expanding the perception of the practitioner by chipping away at our egoistic identifications gradually. This makes us ready to slowly understand the bigger picture. We strive to give up all identificatons to see clearly. Isn't it so?

If that aspect is missing you can still be a very goodhearted person but will that be enough to realise truth within? I don't know. Simply because it is possible to remain attached to egoistic desires and to be a good person at the same time. This doesn't mean that modern Christianity is an invalid path of self realisation. But is it an efficient path? If you are a christian monk, praying with deep fervor/bhakti half a day and be of service the other half I imagine that this will eventually awaken the holy spirit/kundalini. But even then the journey seems to be rather hard without additional practises to smooth it out. Maybe pure bhakti and karma yoga is enough for some but I doubt that it is sufficient for the many. Especially since the many are living in the world with worldly duties.

Just some thoughts.

Edited by - Stille on Nov 06 2019 05:14:11 AM
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Posted - Nov 06 2019 :  1:28:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I too was raised Catholic, and was always attracted to the mysteries and miracles of the man Jesus, whether they were real or not. The rest of the Catholic doctrine and recent actions and inactions of the church is what led me to find my temple within, so there is that.

Fasting and prayer (samyama of sorts) can be considered crossover yogic practices IMO.
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Posted - Nov 08 2019 :  12:59:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Sey, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Christians can't progress spiritually. Some people are born with the ability to abide in stillness and they cultivate it naturally throughout their lives.
What I am saying is that I have found clues in gnostic gospels that there were practices given on an individual basis.

There are exceptions. I have heard of monks who practice some form of mantra meditation, using a line from a Christian prayer (very different from AYP's mantra meditation). I even heard of a practice involving the breath, used by the same monks.

But I also know many church goers (in the Orthodox tradition, as it happens) who spend a lot of time doing pilgrimages to holy places. They wear religious artefacts like magic objects, believing they have protective powers. I see no change in these people over time. I know them personally. They seem to me to be the same, year after year. Sometimes they grow righteous. Maybe I have a blind spot. I hope I am wrong. I hope they do get something out of their practice.

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