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taotanvir

India
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Posted - Sep 12 2018 :  05:23:55 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dogboy!

I am going to stop my tantric masturbation asap. How much time do you think its going to take for me to get back to natural functioning sexuality?

The kinds that have no side effects or symptoms of PE or ED.

Will I recover from the damage by adopting a meditation practice and abstaining from sex altogether. For how long though?
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Dogboy

USA
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Posted - Sep 12 2018 :  10:15:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
It takes as long as it takes, and only you can do the work. Do not worry about ED or PE right now; a dedicated DM practice may help either one over time. We are all different neuro-biologically so there is no one-size-fits-all timeline. Do not abstain from sex, in fact, at this time, do not hold back ejaculation at all; the loss of semen may help calm down your system.

To be honest, you need to acknowledge that your sexual attachments (pornography, directing sexual energies), and the extremes you tend to place on expressing sexuality (brahmacharya) are causing you distress. A dedicated meditation practice will help you get beyond this. Perhaps those attachments are at the root of PE and ED.

My recommendation is to start here first: https://www.aypsite.org/10.html. and direct/dedicate your arousal to your twice-a-day sessions. And if horniness overcomes you at times, do not withhold semen or allow sexual arousal to go beyond five or ten minutes at this time. As your practice takes hold, only then do you consider withhold it on occasion. The sexual part of your being will work out over time as you improve your spiritual self.
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taotanvir

India
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Posted - Sep 13 2018 :  07:05:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Dogboy!

I am going to keep all of that in mind in the future.

Do you suggest to adopt a specific diet for the process?
I consume 6 eggs, chicken, veggies, curd, almonds, bananas everyday. Any inputs on that? And how about hitting the gym for an hour every day. Is that a good thing or exhaustive?
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taotanvir

India
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Posted - Sep 15 2018 :  09:45:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Christi,

I am not sure if I am having too much prana in the body. Is excessive sweating a sign of that?

I have started a half an hour meditatiion practice every day.

Today, however, I experimented with the holdback and blocking method and had nee findings. I'd like to share and get your views on it:

1) For the holdback to be a success according to the lesson by Yogani one must stop stimulation way ahead of orgasm to move the energy. Now if holdback is applied obviously blocking is not required as there will not be any orgasmic contractions to block. Holdback close to orgasm is still possible to not go over the edge.

2) Now I did go over the edge but in a manner what could be called as a perfect non ejaculatory orgasm without any contractions in the pelvis and no semen coming out. Just the sensation of the orgasm. Is this how it is supposed to be executed? I haven't urinated after that so I don't know if my semen has been redirected to the bladder or not.

Are we supposed to stop well short of this experience or let it unfold by itself keeping the block ready at the final go? How close is pre orgasmic sex to this?
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Alstra

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Posted - Jan 27 2021 :  08:17:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Iíve been striving towards completing my spiritual journey for years and now Iím at a stage where I am beginning to attain non-ejaculatory sex, but unfortunately my Zen master is unable to help me figure out what my next steps should be. May I humbly ask for advice on how I should proceed going forward?
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Christi

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Posted - Jan 27 2021 :  10:45:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by taotanvir

Christi,

I am not sure if I am having too much prana in the body. Is excessive sweating a sign of that?

I have started a half an hour meditatiion practice every day.

Today, however, I experimented with the holdback and blocking method and had nee findings. I'd like to share and get your views on it:

1) For the holdback to be a success according to the lesson by Yogani one must stop stimulation way ahead of orgasm to move the energy. Now if holdback is applied obviously blocking is not required as there will not be any orgasmic contractions to block. Holdback close to orgasm is still possible to not go over the edge.

2) Now I did go over the edge but in a manner what could be called as a perfect non ejaculatory orgasm without any contractions in the pelvis and no semen coming out. Just the sensation of the orgasm. Is this how it is supposed to be executed? I haven't urinated after that so I don't know if my semen has been redirected to the bladder or not.

Are we supposed to stop well short of this experience or let it unfold by itself keeping the block ready at the final go? How close is pre orgasmic sex to this?



Hi Taotanvir,

The advice given for pre-orgasmic sex is to stay well in front of anything that could be called a climax. So, that would include staying away from orgasm, whether it is ejaculatory or non-ejaculatory.

However in practice, it is all about the question of energy loss. If energy is not being lost, then there is no issue.

See this forum post by Yogani on this matter:

https://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic...D=3933#33971


Christi
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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 27 2021 :  10:48:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Alstra

Iíve been striving towards completing my spiritual journey for years and now Iím at a stage where I am beginning to attain non-ejaculatory sex, but unfortunately my Zen master is unable to help me figure out what my next steps should be. May I humbly ask for advice on how I should proceed going forward?



Hi Alstra,

Welcome to the forums.

See the tantra pages on this website starting here. They will guide you through the path of pre-orgasmic sex in a step-by-step fashion.

Christi
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