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BellaMente
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 Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 11:53:47 AM
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Thank you GOD for suffering...
Without SUFFERING there would be no experience or appreciation of JOY...
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atena
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 3:30:31 PM
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Yeah, thanks a lot, god. I'm suffering 
What a great dude... |
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YogaIsLife
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 4:04:18 PM
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brother neil
USA
752 Posts |
Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 7:41:29 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by atena
Yeah, thanks a lot, god. I'm suffering
What a great dude...
thanks for the laugh, needed it |
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JDas
USA
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 7:55:25 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by BellaMente
Thank you GOD for suffering...
Without SUFFERING there would be no experience or appreciation of JOY...
What do you mean by suffering? Seems to be an individual thing huh? My friend suffers, I don't, given a particular situation. Am I suffering now? I'm hungry. Is that suffering? Words, huh? Pretty meaningless. |
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BellaMente
USA
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 9:23:56 PM
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Ummm...yea.. I think it is fairly obvious that suffering would be a subjective experience...meaning 'an individual thing'...
I think that suffering is a good thing, because just as a filty rich person doesn't experience the same blessings that money can bring a poor person, nor can they appreciate the money they have as much as a poor person, someone who has experienced suffering can appreciate having joy more than if not...In my opinion, I feel that the more suffering one goes through, the more grateful they are of having joy and the more powerful they experience it... So to me, suffering is not necessarily a bad thing.. I never said it was pleasant - I meerly expressed that I was grateful for it.
And I wasn't looking for any attack or argument- I felt the need to share that just in case somebody here on the AYP forums was going through any pain or suffering and was feeling bad, down, depressed, angry, or feeling like a victim... Not everybody partecipating in the forums are 'enlightened' yet...
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machart
USA
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Posted - Nov 17 2009 : 9:58:19 PM
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Hi BelleMente,
Great topic!
We all suffer...
I agree with you...pain and suffering are the best teachers.
Hopefully ... the lessons learned minimize future pain and suffering... |
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Akasha
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Posted - Nov 20 2009 : 8:35:56 PM
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Originally posted by atena
Yeah, thanks a lot, god. I'm suffering
What a great dude...
I can/will add you to my samyama, if it helps. |
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omarkaya
Spain
146 Posts |
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 06:49:41 AM
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 11:05:31 AM
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Thank you for this BelleMente
quote:
Originally posted by BellaMente
Thank you GOD for suffering...
Without SUFFERING there would be no experience or appreciation of JOY...
I thank God every day for my "struggles" (I don't identify much with suffering anymore, but I certainly still have my struggles) as IME struggle creates opportunity for opening. Without periods of difficulty there would be minimal growth. IME it is the times of struggle that create opportunity to expand into Silence. When there is nothing to "overcome", no perspective to "see through", I find that there can be periods of stagnation. This is not "bad", but it does cause me to thank Life when periods of struggle arise....then there is something definite to work on. Sometimes I find that without a current struggle to attend to I am unsure of what area to focus on. Thank you Life for struggle.
Love.
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Amdor
Netherlands
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Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 11:38:16 AM
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 12:09:50 PM
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God=Life.
Love.
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Amdor
Netherlands
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Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 1:10:55 PM
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I ask because the word GOD does not not mean life for me,Conceptions of God can vary widely 
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 1:28:19 PM
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"Words are but symbols of symbols, and thus twice removed from reality."
~A Course In Miracles
Love.
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omarkaya
Spain
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Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 7:52:55 PM
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 i feel pain cause i know what is joy, ifeel joy cause i know what is pain,some joys can look painful.some pains can look great,life is an undulant wave,from pain comes the joy,from joy will come pain,lets be greatful in joy,lets be happy in pain,now that we are on the wave,lets surf it away. |
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stevenbhow
Japan
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Posted - Jan 14 2010 : 8:45:15 PM
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Life is suffering
You are the cause of your own suffering
There is a way out of suffering
The Way is the Eight Fold Path
The Four Noble Truths (loosely translated)
The Buddha pretty much built his entire spiritual system around the way to end suffering, so yeah, I'd say it's pretty important.
I think suffering's beauty is that it is generally the catalyst that drives us to spiritual seeking. Eventually, we look back on our suffering and see it as a compassionate push towards joy. |
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omarkaya
Spain
146 Posts |
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 07:00:49 AM
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| Hello what i meant,is about surrender to god,to accept your karma is the first step to change it,we live constantly on maya and duality the implication surpasses our will and its beyond us,we cant avoid it,but we can be the obsever of it ,as miguel nicely exposed in "on the road"from observing comes knowledge and understanding and from that comes solution. |
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miguel
Spain
1197 Posts |
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 08:00:00 AM
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miguel?...whos miguel?
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Edited by - miguel on Jan 15 2010 08:33:42 AM |
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christiane
Lebanon
319 Posts |
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 11:34:28 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by miguel
miguel?...whos miguel?
will tell you when i know who's christiane!
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miguel
Spain
1197 Posts |
Posted - Jan 15 2010 : 12:09:49 PM
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Wow,sounds wonderful "christiane"! |
Edited by - miguel on Jan 15 2010 12:11:50 PM |
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Suffering...
