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Non
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 Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 10:03:01 AM
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warning: the following is explicit.
I went a whole month without ejaculating. I was still masturbating though, reaching only the contractions phase, about every day, because I'm doing the jelqs, I pretty much have to. I was thinking I could get away with it but it wasn't working well. By the end of the month I had built up a major case of "blue balls", to the point that the genitals really started to hurt even to the point that when I wanted to let it go, it hurt too much to continue on my own such that I had to look at porn.
This left me really frustrated and I'm starting to lose faith in non ejaculatory orgasm. I really want to conserve my energies at least for the time being that I'm not with anyone. Does that mean I have to cut off masturbation, AND my jelqing practice, if it wasn't just for the erection I need to attain for the practice?
Besides that.. I have not been able to direct my "energy" upwards, or at least that I know of. Surely the "energy" I may or may not be directing could be imaginary, and that's not even an orgasm.
Is this website saying that tantric sex is all about "holding back" on orgasm? I always thought tantric sex had a method of REAL non ejaculatory orgasm, not just "karezza" or some type of non orgasmic sex, which can ultimately lead to these contractions I speak of, and even cause the "blue balls" that I speak of.
Can anyone help me out? "Cleaning the pipes" was necessary, otherwise I would have been hurting for a long time.. and I still do hurt but I don't want to do it again even though I may need to. |
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 11:38:01 AM
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Hi Non:
Are you practicing deep meditation and spinal breathing pranayama? These (or practices producing similar global effects) are essential for long term progress with tantric sexual methods.
It is not easy to purify and open the upper neurobiology with tantric sexual methods alone. Hence the resistance.
Once a balance of methods is established, then, in time, the resistance gives way to abiding whole body ecstatic conductivity and radiance. It takes an effective integration of practices over time to get the job done.
When we meet with excessive resistance on one front, it can signal that we are neglecting other important fronts. Then it is time to self pace where our intense focus and resulting discomfort is and consider a broader view.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
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Non
USA
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Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 3:01:39 PM
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| I would just love to see a scientific biological viewpoint of tantric practices... |
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riptiz
United Kingdom
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Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 3:37:19 PM
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Hi Non,
I doubt if there is any scientific research on Tantric methods.Much of yogic science is written in what we would consider code within the scriptures, not only scriptures from eastern cultures but also the Bible etc.
L&L
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yogani
USA
5196 Posts |
Posted - Apr 16 2009 : 4:26:51 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Non
I would just love to see a scientific biological viewpoint of tantric practices...
Hi Non:
I am sure it will happen. Maybe it already has. If anyone runs across useful research, do let us know.
The logical place for science to look for the effects of tantric sexual practices is in the rise of "natural vajroli" in spiritual practitioners, and the broader scope of it manifesting as the "nectar cycle" throughout the body. Sooner or later, measurable parameters for these neurobiological/spiritual phenomena will be discovered.
Both of these have been discussed from time to time in the forums (try a few searches). And here are a couple of lessons:
On natural vajroli: http://www.aypsite.org/T60.html
On the nectar cycle: http://www.aypsite.org/304.html
The rise of natural vajroli corresponds with a reduction of resistance to upward flowing vital essences and the rise of ecstatic conductivity throughout the body, beginning between root and brow. As mentioned earlier, this is tied in with our overall approach to spiritual practices, of which tantric sexual methods are one part.
The guru is in you.
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Buffle37
Switzerland
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Posted - Apr 18 2009 : 2:14:31 PM
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HI Non:
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Besides that.. I have not been able to direct my "energy" upwards, or at least that I know of. Surely the "energy" I may or may not be directing could be imaginary, and that's not even an orgasm.
In my opinion there are 2 prerequisite :
Master the pelvic floor and the flexibility of the spine.Why do you think yogi are always streching their spine in every direction, it is to allow the currents to pass easily through it.
I suppose every one has his own method. I will give you mine as an example.
I use the count method as Yogani describe it, so it is easy to know the moment you have to stop.Then i relax , contract nine time or more gently the perineum (Hui Yin for the Chinese) then the anus ,i practise also a kind of nadi sodana :i contract the right part of the anus and in the same time inhale through the right nostril and the right leg and the right part of the body then relax and exhale thought the left nostril then contract the left part of the anus inhale throuht the left side etc..Then i contract and inhale throught the center of the anus and the center of the body and when i feel it is time i relax and move gently the sacrum and the energy rush upward. Now it is time to relax and let the energy which know that it have to do move your spine to go higher, just enjoy the sensations.
Dont be to hard with yourself, love your body, when your body need it let the ejaculation happen, if you have drawn the energy upward it will not be a big loss an allow the prostate to empty.
More important the sexual practises are not a end in themselves but you have to use the energy for meditation and the sitting practices.
I hope this can help and please excuse my bad english.
Didier
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