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CarolynDear
USA
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 Posted - May 19 2011 : 10:16:54 AM
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Hi everyone,
I noticed that the lessons talk a lot about purification of our nervous system, and about the symptoms that can arise when purification happens too quickly (irritability, excess energy)-- but I'm just wondering-- what is it exactly that's being purified out of our systems? Karma? Trauma? Dust?
As in-- when I do I cleanse I know that I'm aiming to help various kinds of food and environment-created toxins leave my body. What is it exactly that I'm helping to leave my nervous system when I do AYP?
Thanks!
Carolyn |
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kevincann
USA
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Posted - May 19 2011 : 12:37:05 PM
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Originally posted by CarolynDear
Hi everyone,
I noticed that the lessons talk a lot about purification of our nervous system, and about the symptoms that can arise when purification happens too quickly (irritability, excess energy)-- but I'm just wondering-- what is it exactly that's being purified out of our systems? Karma? Trauma? Dust?
As in-- when I do I cleanse I know that I'm aiming to help various kinds of food and environment-created toxins leave my body. What is it exactly that I'm helping to leave my nervous system when I do AYP?
Thanks!
Carolyn
Carolyn,
You will no doubt receive many responses to this question.
Once a bit of spiritual awakening occurs, our bodies begin to yearn to return home to our original source. This exerts a subtle pressure on us, day and night forever. At the first we may not realized it.. we may stumble into AYP to answer the call.
Our bodies are criss-crossed with many nerve cells, all throughout us, not just in the brain. Our bodies are also filled with little roving messengers, called neuropeptides, which also act as little intelligent messengers. Finally, yes, we there are more subtle subcomponents to the body-emotion-mind-awareness system.
As we quiet down, and stop identifying with what we are not.. namely all the thoughts and feelings which we both perceive and do not at first perceive.. the "kinks" in these intricate systems work themselves out.
For example, most of us hold tension in our stomach area throughout the day.. this is an expression in the body musculature, of the tension we hold inside of ourselves, fighting to maintain a separate, limited self, when in fact we are the ocean of pure awareness.
Purification is relaxation, a letting go of false concepts and energies we clench so tightly, out of fear, and resistance to absolute, unlimited, boundless love and joy.
That bounfdless love, joy and knowing is the fruit that AYP can bring, if we are motivated and steady in our practice.
I love you Carolyn,
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CarolynDear
USA
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Posted - May 19 2011 : 9:35:05 PM
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Hi Kev,
Thanks for your response-- it's cool to think about purification as "a letting go of false concepts and energies which we clench so tightly"-- I look forward to more of this happening.
Yay,
Carolyn |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - May 19 2011 : 9:52:46 PM
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Hi Carolyn,
The reason Yogani isn't more specific as to what is purified is that it is different for everyone. Sometimes emotions are stored in the form of muscle tension, different people use different muscles for this, but as soon as one person declares what they believe is being purified, ten others will come up with ten other versions, some being the opposite from the original story.
What they have in common is that twice daily meditation is what initiates the purification, then you have to fill in the rest of the story for yourself.
This is one reason spirituality has eluded science for so long; science expects repeatable results, and that doesn't happen often with yoga. It's a common path we are all on, but it looks different to each of us.
I love adventure, for instance. I bet there is someone out there who is opposite of me, who would tell you that all the different stories are really the same story, told differently.
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Yaming
Switzerland
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Posted - May 19 2011 : 10:48:19 PM
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I would say there is no specific answer to the purification process as it is simple not known. There are speculations about what it is what it might be, but in the end it's still just an idea and no prove. Maybe the word purification is totally wrong, who knows. If science ever gets the hang on how to step into it, we will figure it out. Till then it is just a metaphor for me and thats ok.
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - May 19 2011 : 11:24:38 PM
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I'm clearing out emotions I had stored in tight muscles. It doesn't necessarily make me remember what stored the emotion, it is just pure emotion that comes out. I can remember what kind of things stored them when I was little. It had to do with not wanting to fully face an emotion at the time.
But I have also heard that emotions coming out doesn't necessarily mean they were stored. . .
What makes me think I am making progress with the muscles? Because I am increasing my flexibility. |
Edited by - Etherfish on May 19 2011 11:25:53 PM |
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Yaming
Switzerland
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Posted - May 20 2011 : 12:01:20 AM
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| Hm well something is happening... Otherwise how can people get angry or sad without apparent reason while meditating. Is it clearing otu of obstruction? Maybe, maybe not. The whole think is just a thing to give the mind a concept. At least that's how I feel about it. |
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manigma
India
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Posted - May 20 2011 : 01:30:59 AM
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Originally posted by CarolynDear
I'm just wondering-- what is it exactly that's being purified out of our systems? Karma? Trauma? Dust?
Yes. Karma, Trauma, Dust and everything you can think of.
You are already pure.
You just need a good bath.
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - May 20 2011 : 07:50:53 AM
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I agree Yaming; that's what we all have in common - something is happening.
Manigma - Ha ha. I agree; at least there is the illusion of more than one thing that is cleared. |
Edited by - Etherfish on May 20 2011 07:52:35 AM |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 20 2011 : 10:19:07 AM
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Hi Carolyn!
In my opinion, what is being purified with advanced yoga practices and other purification practices is the perception. This is (again in my opinion) why it is so difficult to scientifically measure purification.... how can you measure the change in perception other then by subjectively measuring how your daily life changes as we continue to do practices? You can't really. 
Just my opinion and it is always subject to change. 
Love!
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CarolynDear
USA
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Posted - May 20 2011 : 10:20:49 AM
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Etherfish, Yaming and manigma--- thanks for giving me food for reflection. I've thought a lot about the pitfalls of science in demanding objectively repeatable results for phenomena that are subjective / influenced by the quality of an individual's consciousness. I don't have to know for sure what it is that's being purified-- I just thought I'd ask. ;)
From my very brief experience so far it seems like what leaves me after I meditate is a sense of heaviness or attachment to the perceived problems in my life.
Gratitude,
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riptiz
United Kingdom
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Posted - May 20 2011 : 12:23:31 PM
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Hi Carolyn,
How our lives change is a measure of our progress and the lifting of heaviness is very common.The rest is scenery.
L&L
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - May 20 2011 : 7:06:06 PM
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| Me too; they should make a word for lifting of heaviness; maybe en-light-ment or something |
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CarolynDear
USA
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Posted - May 23 2011 : 8:38:06 PM
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Etherfish-- Brilliant! why didn't someone think of it sooner?!
Dave - thanks for the words of validation. :)
Carson - yes-- but what is it that's being taken out of the perception so that it's purified? Perception dust?
Yay,
Carolyn
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