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ycloutier2000

Canada
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Posted - Jul 14 2009 :  6:33:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Just wondering if anyone else is finding that kechari seems to trigger upward movement of air.

Victor

USA
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Posted - Jul 15 2009 :  10:33:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
do you mean a spontaneous gentle inhalation and mild suspension of breath?
Yes, i feel that from kechari
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ycloutier2000

Canada
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Posted - Jul 18 2009 :  11:42:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
No, what i mean is more like bloating. After i've been in kechari for a while, apana start moving up towards the stomach. I have to release kechari to let out some gas through the mouth.

For a few hours after i am terribly bloated and keep having to belch. Eventually its starts moving downward again and have a bit of gas. But while it is moving upward, it is very uncomfortable- the bloated feeling.

At first i didnt think much of it. But then i realised that this upward movement of air seemed to be trigged by kechari. I even tested stopping kechari for a week - and everything was fine. But the day i started resuming kechari, sure enough upward movement of air and bloating started up again.

Thats why i was wondering if others were also getting this?

I would assume that upward movement would go up the spine, not up the front?
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Shanti

USA
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Posted - Jul 18 2009 :  11:44:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shanti's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a topic that may help:
kechari and "prana belly"
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Scott

USA
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Posted - Jul 18 2009 :  11:54:30 AM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Air moving in a strange way ends up being a very bad thing. Self pace!

Yogani says the same thing in the topic Shanti linked:

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In fact, an excessively swelling belly or undue pressure anywhere inside is usually a signal to, you guessed it, self-pace our practices.


My own experience is this...I thought I could practice kechari like a spiritual hero, just do it a lot of the time. Well I was taking a plane ride, and doing meditation in kechari, and I had what seemed like a heart attack. Luckily as you can tell I didn't die, but it was kind of alarming! Two years later and it seems I have finally cleared out that energetic issue, and healed.

Our bodies need to be coaxed gradually with these types of practices, not shoved. Also, there is a right time and a wrong time to add in kechari. It seems to me that when it messes with your digestion, it's too early to be practicing...just my humble opinion.

Good luck.
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ycloutier2000

Canada
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Posted - Jul 18 2009 :  2:14:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much for all your replies.

Yes, I too was like that - trying to pratice kechari like there was no tomorrow.

In fact, i notice that it's if i do it for extended amount of time that that is when i start getting bloated. So you are right, perhaps i need to pace.

I am starting to get back to my practice after a (too long) absence. I have to realise I can't start back where i left off. I should go back to the begining and work my way back up slowly.
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paw

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Posted - Aug 16 2009 :  04:21:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit paw's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Good idea, y. Work back into it.

I find no problems when I mostly do kechari during spinal breathing, yoni mudra, subtle breath kriyas, and meditation. But one thing I like to do that helps spare me any body effects is, I skip breakfast, and practice around noon-1pm, So I'm really empty down there, and can do vajroli/sahajoli mudra and uddiyana bandha well. I always wait at least three hours after eating to practice, at any time of day.

Edited by - paw on Aug 20 2009 10:43:45 PM
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