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Anthem
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 Posted - May 20 2007 : 11:05:08 PM
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It's interesting to watch the process and transformation of the mind over time as we search for ourselves and walk the spiritual path. So much of my personal search has been coming to realize what I am not. I am not my body, I am not my emotions, I am not my thoughts, I am not my mind/ ego etc. It's also interesting to realize how relative our truth is.
Some aspects of the mind are so closely imbedded in our perceptions that we don't even realize that they are a lens that we look through which colors our perceptions of reality.
I came to the realization earlier today that I am not my identity, I am not "Anthem11". "Anthem11" is just another thought that I remember. I realize that if I just sit here and listen, that I don't actually know who I am unless I think about it. Who am I? I am this field of awareness that needs to think about an identity, to remember it. When I remember it, I think ah yes, I am Anthem11, I am such and such an age, I do this for work... etc. My mind creates an identity based on a bunch of thoughts of what I do and calls it "Anthem11". I see clearly that I am a field of awareness that transcends this body, that's it, I am not anything, I just am and actually have no idea what that is or means.
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weaver
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Posted - May 20 2007 : 11:22:42 PM
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Hi Andrew (?)
Yes, this is a profound insight. I also see that I am a field of awareness that doesn't need to attach to it what I usually have considered my personality, or what others think I am. It surprised me a little today, when sorting junk mail, and some was addressed to my first name, then the thought came up "Is this for me, or who?". It feels liberating in some way. |
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Kyman
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Posted - May 20 2007 : 11:37:28 PM
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Edited by - Kyman on May 20 2007 11:53:03 PM |
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weaver
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Posted - May 21 2007 : 12:03:45 AM
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Hi Kyman,
Thinking outside of the box feels liberating. It feels like there is more freedom of choice, to be able to make a better choice because there is less stuff (opinions, beliefs, habit patterns etc.) trying to interfere with the awareness. |
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Anthem
1608 Posts |
Posted - May 21 2007 : 12:14:03 PM
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Originally posted by Kyman
What does thinking outside the box feel like?
From another perspective, there is no thinking outside of the box.
If you were to define the box as our normal experience of reality with the company of our ever-babbling ego-minds, which are perpetually busy spinning out a story of our life, then outside of that there is just quiet awareness of experience. Outside of that there is silence, there is just being without labels and definitions and interpretations of our direct experience.
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salvation
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Posted - May 21 2007 : 12:53:38 PM
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I would like to heartly thanks to Yogani & members here.
I am a new user, but I would like to share my views with you.
I have also gone through this sort of experience sometimes,that comes naturally when I try to find the answer "who am I?" When I try to go deeper in silence , this world seems the reality created by my own mind but I feel myself something seperate from all these worldly affairs.
Anthem11 , you wrote the topic " I am not my identity ", but this observer within you is your actual identity(the soul or atman).I hope that this is not another game of mind.
Any suggestions are welcomed.. |
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Anthem
1608 Posts |
Posted - May 21 2007 : 10:24:27 PM
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Hi Salvation, welcome to the forum!
A mind game would involve thoughts and concepts. Awareness simply is, "conceptless", not definable, knowable only without thought. Yes I see what you mean the observer within is who we are, but from my perspective there is no identity to it, it just is. We simply be.
Enlightenment isn't some point in the future, it is now. We become a little more enlightened the more we live in the here and now.
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salvation
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Posted - May 22 2007 : 01:16:27 AM
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Hi anthem,
it seems that u have got the glimpse of that state which is called enlightment ,though not permanent.I think this is, what we obtain through "Gyan yoga" .You said that you see no identity to it, that may be because "it is the job of the MIND to perceive the world by its own logics".If your awareness is without logics and thoughts, then certainly it should be beyond mind and only the consiousness or the soul could cross the boundaries of the mind. any suggestions to remain in this state for long time? |
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Anthem
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Posted - May 22 2007 : 09:37:57 AM
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Glimpse is a good word. When you are on the road and you get a glimpse of where you are going and then you know you are headed in the right direction.
As far as suggestions go, I can only say that twice a day AYP practices as outlined in the lessons here:
http://www.aypsite.org/MainDirectory.html
As well as finding, identifying and understanding the thoughts that take me out of the here and now have helped me become steadily more present over time. It is a road I will follow my whole life long as far as I can see from here and I look forward to seeing where it takes me.
A
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