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Spinal Breathing During
Tantric Sex? (Audio)
T33.1 - Practicing Deep
Meditation and Samyama During Tantric Sex? (Audio)
Date: Thu Jun 10, 2004 2:48pm
It is recommended you read from the beginning of this tantra yoga archive,
as previous lessons are prerequisite to this one. The first lesson is, "What
is tantra yoga?"
Q: There is a vama (left-handed)
form of kriya that is practiced during copulation, called Cobra breath,
which has 4 stages of practice. This appears to be a fast-track method of
the regular kriya, with rapid benefits. Yet in these lessons you have told
us to practice the spinal breath in two sessions outside of tantra practice.
But if spinal breath can be done during tantra practices with immense
benefits, then why have you not recommended spinal breath with sexual
A: Spinal breathing can be done during tantric sex. The
reason it has not been covered in the lessons yet is because I was waiting
for someone to ask, and you did! There are several reasons why we have not
jumped into it already. The reasons have been touched on in the lessons.
First, sexual relations do not lend themselves to being done by the
clock -- not at a certain time twice each day, and not every day without
Second, sexual relations do not lend themselves to being
regulated in duration -- so many minutes of this practice and so many
minutes of that practice.
Third, combining sitting practices with
tantric sex can lead to additional releases of obstructions that must be
regulated in some way so as not to become excessive.
occurrence of sexual relations is most easily left to serendipity, which is
how it naturally happens. This is not in synch with any of the above, but
can be overridden by the discipline of mutually dedicated practitioners.
The time-related matters are of great importance in yoga. Without
regularity and correct measurement of practices, yoga can quickly fly out of
control, and quite a few people in the main lessons have commented in the
Q&As on aspects of experience from sitting practices related to this. In
fact, most of the Q&As are about pacing practices to accommodate
experiences. It can be a tricky business to keep balance in advanced yoga
practices. For this reason, using sexual relations as a primary means for
yoga is like trying to row a small boat across the ocean in a hurricane.
Does this mean spinal breathing should not be done in sexual relations?
No, it doesn't mean that. It means that it should not be considered to be
primary practice, which, in the main lessons, is measured by the clock twice
daily before breakfast and dinner.
If we engage in sexual relations,
whenever that happens to be, then we can consider using spinal breathing,
or, for that matter, any other sitting practice. I'm sure many have thought
about this already, as you have. There are a lot of practices to choose
from. But there is a challenge, you know, and that is the matter of the
possibility of stimulating excessive release of obstructions in the nervous
We will know it has happened by how we feel later on after
sexual relations that have been blended with spinal breathing or other
Being in sexual union during spinal breathing is powerful
indeed. But power does not translate immediately into progress. After all,
we have huge power available already in our sitting practices, if we could
only absorb and use it all. But we can only go as fast as our nervous system
can accommodate the release of obstructions, and therein lies the limiting
factor. There is no limit on power in these practices, with or without
sexual union. So, again, it gets back to regulation of practices through
The same thing applies in tantric sex, though not so
much in using the holdback method to facilitate long preorgasmic unions.
This does not usually lead to excessive releases -- just more and more
ecstatic bliss, which stays with us even as we enter our sitting practices
later on. This is why the focus here has been on holdback and long
preorgasmic unions. It does not usually cause imbalances in our internal
energies, and sets up our nervous system for wonderful sitting practices
later on, the next day, or whenever our sitting practice time arrives. This
is the real payoff that comes from tantric sexual union, and only long
preorgasmic unions are necessary to produce it. There is a lot to be said
for doing tantric sex and sitting practices in series (separately), rather
than in parallel.
With spinal breathing added to sexual relations,
there will be additional release of inner obstructions in the nervous
system, and you will find a need to regulate the practice to avoid the
excesses that can happen. This is a bit tricky when in the throes of
lovemaking, unless two people are so in tune that they can sit in union face
to face, propped up with pillows in a "V" formation (or other semi-vertical
position), doing spinal breathing for 5, 10, 15, or however many minutes are
suitable for both partners. It doesn't sound very romantic, does it? Well,
to let it go on and on could lead to too much release for one or both
partners, and much crabbiness later on after the lovemaking is over. Try it
and see. Powerful spiritual practices are powerful spiritual practices no
matter when they are done.
So, do you see why we have not gotten
into this before? It leaves the door open for complications and potential
difficulties. In the lessons we want to stick with approaches that are
simple with minimal difficulties, while at the same time very effective for
purifying and opening the nervous system to divine experience.
instead, what we do is bring sexual stimulation gradually into our sitting
practices in a measured way using siddhasana, mulabandha and sambhavi (very
sexy with ecstatic conductivity). Practices such as nauli/uddiyana, chin
pump and spinal bastrika become quite sexual in the middle to later stages
also. All of this we can regulate within our sitting practices. There can
also be good regulation when combining practices with masturbation. But even
that can get out of hand, leaving us crabby and with a headache. It is all
in the measuring. If we do too much we can be stymied and uncomfortable for
a while as the energy excess and imbalance corrects itself. Yoga practice is
about releasing obstructions in a way that we can continue day-by-day over
the long run, with ecstatic bliss gradually building up and overflowing into
our daily activity.
If you have a partner you can work with in a
measured way during sexual intercourse, you may be able to self-pace
practices in lovemaking with smooth results. If so, then by all means go for
it. But be mindful that lovemaking is a serendipity event, potentially an
extra boost on the path of yoga, and it is wise to always regard daily
sitting practices as the primary yoga.
If we can handle the huge
extra energy generated by combining spinal breathing, chin pump, spinal
bastrika or yoni mudra kumbhaka with preorgasmic sexual relations, it can be
a big boost. On the other hand, it can end up fizzling for the reasons
mentioned above. Experiment and see what happens. And then -- apply
Or, just enjoy long preorgasmic sex with your lover
whenever it happens, and be assured that the ocean of ecstatic bliss you
both have gained will still be available when you sit on your respective
meditation cushions for twice daily practices.
The guru is in you.
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