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gryphon

USA
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Posted - May 24 2021 :  03:23:04 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
As a bit of background, I learned Transcendental Meditation as a young college student back in 1973. Over the years I've been fairly consistent with my TM practice, and although I have no connection to the TM organization, the technique has served me well.

Flash forward almost 50 years and now I'm an old man, retired, and I have both the time and the desire to expand my meditation practice with samyama. I'd like to learn the TM-Sidhi technique, but for me it's too expensive and requires excessive travel.

Luckily I discovered AYP, and with this site and Yogani's excellent book Samyama, I've been able to add samyama to my TM practice for the past month or so.

I'm having one problem with the new practice however. I'm finding that during samyama (which follows 20 minutes or so of TM and consists of eight short sutras plus the longer ending lightness sutra) I seem to be "transcending", or losing all thoughts, sutras, experience of the silence, and sense of time. While this is fine during TM, I don't think it's considered an aspect of samyama (but I'm a beginner and could be wrong). My main issue with transcending during samyama is the time involved. Lately I've had samyama extend to over one hour due to this transcending. I don't think I'm falling asleep, although one can never be completely sure.

If anyone has any suggestions or insights I'd be very grateful. I'm not worried about this transcending during samyama, but I wonder if it's uncommon and maybe I should be worried. Thank you!

Edited by - gryphon on May 24 2021 03:25:24 AM

SeySorciere

Seychelles
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Posted - May 24 2021 :  06:18:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear gryphon,

Sounds like you are doing very well with samyama. Yes, it is perfectly normal and ok to transcend, especially if you have the time. When you come back to yourself, you can consider your practices done even if you have not managed all nine sutras. Or you may complete the other sutras - up to you.


Sey
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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - May 24 2021 :  09:13:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi gryphon,

Welcome to the forums.

As Sey says, it is fine to experience transcendence during Samyama. It is covered in this lesson. See answer #3

Lesson 317 - Eleven Key Questions on Samyama


It is also discussed in the Samyama book on page 31.


Christi
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Blanche

USA
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Posted - May 24 2021 :  1:38:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit Blanche's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Gryphon,

Welcome to the forum. Transcending during samyama is normal. If the practice time becomes so extended that it is hard to manage, it is fine to limit the practice to the number of sutras that fits your normal practice time, as Sey wrote. In the end, it is more important to maintain a long-term regular practice than to go in some herculean intensive sessions that make life unmanageable.

And of course, things may change, and someday you may find yourself covering all the sutras. The practice has its wisdom.

The guru is in you.
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gryphon

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Posted - May 24 2021 :  5:56:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all so much! This is very helpful. And thank you for the kind greetings; it's nice to be here.
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