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wotanica

Norway
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Posted - Mar 16 2009 :  04:44:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit wotanica's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Hi

A while back while working out, i later wanted to have sex with my gf. Sadly, my partner did not feel like it - so I decided to go solo.
But I was interupted and could not complete.

The next day I noticed that I had a lot more energy. This was courious I thought, and decided to do it again.

I managed to keep it going for six days, the energy was unbelivable! I only sleept five hours or so each night, worked out - then went to the office. Then suddenly it was like the energy megan to radiate in my lower abdomen, moving up from the genital area (like it was following tubes in there). The lust also began to change into.. well, sex suddenly did not seem so important. Because I feelt so good with all this new energy :)

The next day when me and my gf had sex, it physically hurt (!) and all that wonderful energy was gone. I actually became a bit depressed for a few days. The body feelt heavy, thoughts were gloomy - and I just wanted to be alone.

I searched online and have begun to suspect that I have been doing tantra without knowing it. I am well versed in religion (Concider myself a saivite, but there are no temples where i live), but I always thought tantra was super advanced and that a "normal" (if studying religion put me in that department) person cant do it. You have to be a holy yogi and renounce girls completely. Im just a guy who likes to read books - I have little practise except "breath in, breath out" from Buddhism.

Im not going to lie. Porn did play a factor for me those six days. I excited myself 3 times each day, but when the surge from the legs began to tingle - i stopped and just did something else. I also noticed that "breathing wide" allows the mind to "get out" of the iron grip just before ejaculation.

And is it just me, or do girls pick up on this? I got more offers those days than ever before. Flattering ofcourse but a bit scary. If this is tantra, then I can begin to see the enourmous power an expert can have over people. And how easy it would be to abuse it as well.

So, is this a form of tantra?

Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 16 2009 :  05:15:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Wotanica,

Welcome to the forum.

Yes, this is an aspect of tantric sex. Tantra is a big subject which includes many aspects of life, but part of sexual tantra is the preservation and cultivation of sexual energy so that the energy can then be used for spiritual awakening. Another word for this is brahmacharya.

Yogani talks a lot about tantric sex in the tantra lessons on this site. Just follow the link on the left.

And yes, this energy can be abused, which is why it is best to only practice tantra with an integrated system of spiritual practices including mediation. That way, as well as cultivating spiritual energy, we can also cultivate compassion, love and harmony, and will want to use the energy to serve others rather than to harm them.

Christi
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wotanica

Norway
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Posted - Mar 16 2009 :  3:10:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit wotanica's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Cool! Thank you for your reply :)

Hmm.. If I find my mind drifting during these days, so much so that I have problems focusing on work, any hints or tips?

I have a pretty high apetite for the female form, and lately i feel i'm getting a bit addicted to it.

Edited by - wotanica on Mar 16 2009 3:20:22 PM
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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 17 2009 :  08:08:41 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Wotanica,

There is a phase in spiritual evolution where sex can seem to dominate the picture for a while. There is a lesson by Yogani here on how to take all that sexual energy, and use it more productively... for human spiritual transformation!

http://www.aypsite.org/54.html

Also, I don't know if you practice meditation, but that can help in learning how to focus the mind:

http://www.aypsite.org/13.html

Good luck,

Christi

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wotanica

Norway
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 :  08:41:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit wotanica's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Also, I don't know if you practice meditation, but that can help in learning how to focus the mind:


First, thank you so much for your reply :)
I have some experience with meditation, but not much. I have a mild form of ADD - so as you can imagine, staying focus for long times is biologically impossible for me. But mind has the abillity to change matter, or so I believe, and with practise (and perhaps some unorthodox solutions) I should be able to make this better. I don't know if there is such a thing as "spontaneous meditation", but that is the best phrase I can find for my own experiences. Especially when I go for my walks in the forest to re-charge. Sometimes I can sit or walk-slowly without thinking about anything in particular for an hour or two - thinking it has only been five minutes. Often with small flashes or insight into thing.

My ADD is also one of the reasons I excel in pattern-matching. There have been many tasks that other people with linear thoughts (left brained) fail - where I found a solution to quite rapidly.

I am thinking about a course in Buddhist meditation, a study course over two years (tibetan mahayana), partly because I would like to exmine their practise and use it to help ADD'ers - but mostly because I feel very drawn to Buddhism.
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Shanti

USA
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 :  08:55:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Shanti's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by wotanica


I have some experience with meditation, but not much. I have a mild form of ADD - so as you can imagine, staying focus for long times is biologically impossible for me.


I know someone who has been practicing AYP for a few years and has ADD (not mild.. he is on medication for it).. but he says meditation helps, because people with ADD have a tendency to hyper-focus.. so if something really interests you, you are all the way into it. He has no trouble with meditation, actually, it's one of the things he does best. So maybe if you actually try it and get into it, you will really benefit from it.

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Originally posted by wotanica


I am thinking about a course in Buddhist meditation, a study course over two years (tibetan mahayana), partly because I would like to exmine their practise and use it to help ADD'ers - but mostly because I feel very drawn to Buddhism.


Sure, if you are drawn to Buddhism, then that is the way to go. You could try deep meditation and see you enjoy it.

Wish you all the best.
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mimirom

Czech Republic
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 :  6:46:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit mimirom's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi wotanica,

I'm pleased to meet you here on the forums. I'm also drawn to Buddhism very much, It's a great system. I must agree with Shanti, that meditation practice might be a good choice for you, also with regards to your latest experiences with sexual energy. Something's changing, you discovered something new... Maybe it could be even a nail on the head for you, in my opinion.

Have a look at these vids, with children suffering ADHD. They are talking about the so-called "Transcendental Meditation," which is pretty much the same as "Deep Meditation," that most of the people here are practicing.


http://streaming.uspeacegov.org/Int...ith_ADHD.wmv
http://streaming.uspeacegov.org/ABC_WLJA_News.wmv

Good luck,
Roman

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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 23 2009 :  08:09:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Wotanica,

quote:
I don't know if there is such a thing as "spontaneous meditation", but that is the best phrase I can find for my own experiences. Especially when I go for my walks in the forest to re-charge. Sometimes I can sit or walk-slowly without thinking about anything in particular for an hour or two - thinking it has only been five minutes. Often with small flashes or insight into thing.


Yes, there is such a thing as spontaneous meditation. In sanskrit it is called sahaja samadhi. Sahaja literally means spontaneous, and samadhi is a state of mental absorption.

I also spend times like this in the woods. It is very beautiful.

Christi
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