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484 From: Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: Some Key AYP Lessons ashwinjlsun
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"Read a little, meditate more, contemplate God always" -Yogananda
nearoanoke <nearoanoke@yahoo.com> wrote:
I agree with you Jim. Whatever we reason, read or analyze is good
but it cannot replace our practices as a means to reach our goal.
Sometimes this reading and knowing things helps in our practices
too. For example had i not read/known that getting thoughts in
meditation is okay, i would have really made a mess out of my
meditation. Similarly "dont expect a perfect guru, be one yourself"
is a very good suggestion that i read too. We often try to analyze
the guru and expect perfection in him which can be a hindrance to
our goal. We need to try to glean as much good info as possible for
every source/guru that we meet instead of expecting too much
perfection from everyone.
I always keep my practices as my first priority and learning thru
reading the 2nd.
Love to all,
Near
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "jim_and_his_karma"
<jim_and_his_karma@y...> wrote:
>
>
> When the Buddha was asked about particulars like these, he told a
homily, which I'll
> absolutely butcher and mangle in paraprhase, but you'll get the
idea:
>
> Two learned men came upon a man in the street who had an arrow
sticking into his
> stomach but who was not quite dead. The men launched into a
scholarly discussion over
> the type of arrow it was, the angle from which it was most likely
shot, the reasons for it's
> being shot in the first place, and the organs probably pierced by
the trajectory. The dying
> man, unable to speak, moaned and pointed at the arrow with
beseeching eyes. The two
> men continued to analyze and erudite, arguing over the probable
blood loss thus far,
> learnedly explaining which tissues had been injured, and rendering
predictions for the
> remaining time before death if the arrow wasn't pulled out
immediately.
>
> And then he died, the arrow still in him.
>
> Point being, of course, that life is short and we've got a
profoundly important issue to take
> care of (awakening), and you can analyze, elucidate, name, and
study all you'd like, but if
> it becomes distraction to the process of addressing the central
issue, you're in trouble.
>
> Note that I myself am fascinated with all that stuff! And there's
nothing wrong with
> erudition and analysis, so I'm certainly not rebuking anyone or
suggesting we close this
> discussion! But I love the story, and it fits beautifully with the
spirit of the AYP, and I
> wanted to share it to put into perspective these sorts of
ancillary analytical issues
> (especially for readers along, who may get the mistaken impression
that this sort of
> scholarship is necessary for moving ahead in the path).
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@y...>
wrote:
> > Dear Ram,
> >
> > The 'spaces' I mentioned are from an Ayurvedic
> > Teacher/Yogi I study with, and from Buddhism. As far
> > as written references...I have none of those, only
> > oral transmission and personal knowing thru
> > experience.
> >
> > Namaste-
> > Ashwin
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Ram Narayan Gupta <rngupta31@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Ashwin!
> > > Will u pl. provide the references for arriving at
> > > the location of God, Guru. and soul in the body.
> > > Thanks & Namaste.
> > > R N Gupta
> > >
> > > Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear R N-
> > >
> > > Their is the 'spac of Atman', and the 'space of
> > > Jiva'
> > > within each human being.
> > >
> > > The right chamber of the heart carries the Jiva, or
> > > individualized soul, and its energetic location is
> > > the
> > > Daharakash, located 1 thumb width off the sternum,
> > > on
> > > the right side of the chest, in the second
> > > intercostal
> > > space(the second space between the ribs, the first
> > > being right below the clavicle). This is where we
> > > touch ourselves when someone talks to you, and you
> > > say
> > > "are you talking to me?(hand on the heart)" this
> > > auto
> > > gesture reveals this truth to all.
> > >
> > > This is the space of giving/recieving, and Buddha is
> > > shown holding a Lotus flower to his chest here...
> > >
> > > The 'space of Atman' is where the cosmic soul/Self
> > > resides, and this is in the 3rd and 4th ventricles
> > > of
> > > the brain. This space here is equal to the space
> > > between galaxies in our outer universe. It is the
> > > Chidakash. This 'space' is linked to the whole space
> > > of the spinal cavity, or sushumna...thus spinal
> > > breathing!
> > >
> > > Thus we have two hearts (heart by definition is the
> > > "center of"...heart of the palm, heart of the city,
> > > etc) One being the heart/chest area, the other being
> > > the center of the brain...thus linking and building
> > > communication between these two 'centers' lifts us
> > > into the higher strata of existence, beyond
> > > experience...
> > >
> > > Namste-
> > > Ashwin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Ram Narayan Gupta wrote:
> > > > Dear AYP Friends!
> > > > All the lessons of Yoganiji ends with :" The guru
> > > > is in you " God and Soul are also within us all.
> > > > And meditation, generally is looking within.
> > > > Can I have some feedback from the Group members as
> > > > to whether there is any specific location for God/
> > > > Guru/Soul in side us such as Pituitary/ Pineal
> > > Gland
> > > > or location of 3rd Eye, between eyes brow / Heart
> > > or
> > > > there is no such dimarcation. If Heart ,where is
> > > > the exact location of spiritual Heart.
> > > > With regards & Love,
> > > > R N gupta
> > > >
> > > > quickstudy05 wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here are some key AYP lessons from the main
> > > > directory:
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyo...ainDirectory
> > > >
> > > > Desire & Bhakti:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/12
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/67
> > > >
> > > > Deep Meditation:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/13
> > > >
> > > > Spinal Breathing Pranayama:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/41
> > > >
> > > > Kundalini Introduction:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/54
> > > >
> > > > Mulabandha:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/55
> > > >
> > > > Sambhavi Mudra:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/56
> > > >
> > > > Finding the Guru:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/57
> > > >
> > > > Kundalini Remedies:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/69
> > > >
> > > > Asana Introduction (the book includes an "asana
> > > > starter kit"):
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/71
> > > >
> > > > Siddhasana:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/75
> > > >
> > > > Yoni Mudra Kumbhaka:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/91
> > > >
> > > > Tantra Introduction:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/97
> > > >
> > > > What is Enlightenment?:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/100
> > > >
> > > > Kechari Mudra:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/108
> > > >
> > > > Uddiyana & Nauli:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/129
> > > >
> > > > Dynamic Jalandhara (the chin pump):
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/139
> > > >
> > > > Patanjali's Eight Limbs of Yoga:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/149
> > > >
> > > > Samyama and the Role of Siddhis ("super-normal
> > > > powers"):
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/150
> > > >
> > > > Spinal Bastrika:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/171
> > > >
> > > > Managing the Opening of the Crown:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/199
> > > >
> > > > Summary of Principles and Practices
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/204
> > > >
> > > > Managing Daily Practices in a Busy Life:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/209
> > > >
> > > > Heart Breathing:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/220
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For the AYP Lessons and Books, go to:
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > > >
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