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 Rest, overload, and resting as an activity?
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Wil

Sweden
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Posted - Jan 15 2023 :  2:52:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Is it advised, per you AYP practitioners, to rest however long you like? I feel like it is, please give me input.

I have a disregard for unnecessary 'dualistic information/grounding' nowadays. I find that the best activity I can do when sufficiently grounded is to just rest...even for hours. It makes relevant thoughts(Samskar) fall into place and if I rest beyond 5-15 minutes depending on the state, I get a clear nearly constant witness state that relaxes me like never before. My resting is done in meditation posture, meeting the thoughts, specifically returning to knowing that I'm being with the thoughts...that is not a meditation as there is no specific object, perhaps mindfulness??

For instance, all I ask is that I would like to rest at least 30 more minutes per day. Perhaps before meditation in evenings.

SeySorciere

Seychelles
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Posted - Jan 16 2023 :  05:45:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear Will,

I get the impression that you are now moving into the field of relational Self-Inquiry. This kind of resting can take place anytime, anywhere if you have sufficient abiding Inner Silence (Being /Self) to release all and move into That.

And in answer to your question - yes, you can rest as long as you want to. However, meditation on Awareness has Awareness has the object and is still meditation and I find (in my current phase) if I stay in that state too long, it becomes too much. I have to go out into activity.

Hope that is helpful.


Sey
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Christi

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Posted - Jan 16 2023 :  12:54:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Wil,

Not all forms of meditation have an object. There is an objectless form of meditation, which is called the "passive awareness technique". This is used in AYP as a possible alternative to mantra meditation, for people experiencing too much purification from the mantra, and too much purification from using the breath as an object. It is described in lesson addition 367.4:

Addition 367.4 - Passive Awareness Technique for Very Sensitive Meditators

If you are verging on using the passive awareness technique, and you use it too much, you will know, because of symptoms of energetic overload. If that happens, then you can cut back on your practice times accordingly and engage more in grounding praticies.


Christi
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Wil

Sweden
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Posted - Jan 21 2023 :  8:34:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Christi and Sey.

I will beware and continue my extended rest and keep an eye on the fire.

Sey, it Makes me hopeful that you call it relational self inquiry. Iím in a dance between wheter or not i have Discrumination regarding dualism and no. Dualism :)
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Dogboy

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Posted - Jan 22 2023 :  04:12:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Iím in a dance between wheter or not i have Discrumination regarding dualism and no. Dualism


Just keep dancing
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