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Cato

Germany
51 Posts

Posted - Sep 14 2019 :  4:27:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
I just read yoganis lesson about time management http://www.aypsite.org/209.html.

My routine right now is about 35 to 40 minutes with SBP, DM, yoni mudra and rest. When I scan across the practices to come, some day you spend about 75 minutes, twice daily. That is quite a lot. I get up at 5:30 right now and have the feeling that I cannot clear much more time for future practices. I understand that SPB and DM are the core practices. Is there some other hierarchy in the other practices that is recommended?

Asanas
Navi Kriya
Nauli
Forced breathing out (rapid forced breathing out)
Chin Pump
Spinal Bastrika Pranayama
Core Samyama
Yoni Mudra Kumbhaka
Targeted Laser Bastrika
Cosmic Samayama

So basically I have two questions:

Is the order the practices are introduced in the booklets necessarily the order the practices are introduced into one's routine or doesn't it matter (apart from SBP, DM)?

Is there a hierarchy regarding the importance of practices in a busy time schedule (apart from SBP, DM)?


Stille

Germany
45 Posts

Posted - Sep 15 2019 :  07:09:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Aside from the core practises of DM and SBP everything in AYP is optional, if you are inclined to do it. The order of the practises isn't fixed either but it is recommended that you start out from the beginning and take it slow. At least that is my understanding of it.

Also: https://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic...OPIC_ID=1771 ; the fly wheel effect - the longer you have been practising, the less practise is needed for the same amount of opening occuring.

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Is there a hierarchy regarding the importance of practices in a busy time schedule (apart from SBP, DM)?


I would do the practises that your inner guru is pulling you towards. That is the best approach possible in my opinion.

Much love
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jusmail

India
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Posted - Sep 15 2019 :  07:46:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
As said above, other than spinal breathing and meditation, the rest are optional. If you are inclined to experiment, you can try extra practices during a long weekend or during your vacation. We incorporate the other practices over a very long period according to our time and energy.
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Cato

Germany
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Posted - Sep 15 2019 :  1:35:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Though the other practices are optional, they speed up purification, right? So it does of course make sense to incorporate them in the long run. However, I wonder how to make up the time to do that.

I added Samyama recently and had to stop it after a few days due to overload. Does it make sense to add another practice instead of Samyama (chin pump for example)? Is it possible that one practice leads less to an overload than another? I guess it depends on the person...
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Stille

Germany
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Posted - Sep 15 2019 :  4:30:25 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
less is more is what I've been told when I was craving for more practises

Samyama is beautiful and works miracles. Did you try releasing the sutra once instead of twice? Or reducing to once a day? I experienced slight overload the first few times as well but adjusted pretty well afterwards.

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However, I wonder how to make up the time to do that.


Just do what you can. Maybe attend a retreat sometime or add a sitting on weekends. There are many ways to enhance purification. And usually such problems solve themselves when we are tuned into the divine flow.
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Cato

Germany
51 Posts

Posted - Sep 18 2019 :  05:00:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Stille, as we are talking about Samyama and I see you are from Germany, do you have any suggestions for the Samyama translation to German? I use

Love: Liebe
Radiance: Glanz (?)
Unitiy: Einheit
Health: Gesundheit
Strength: Stärke
Abundance: Reichtum (?)
Wisdom: Weisheit
Inner Sensualitiy: Innere Sinnesfreuden (?)
Aksha - Lightness of Air: Innerer Raum - Leichte von Luft (?)
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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 18 2019 :  05:37:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Cato,

I don't know if you are aware of it, but all of the AYP lessons and books have been translated into German. The suggested translations there for the basic 9 samyama sutras into German are on this page:

https://www.fyue.de/samayama-siddhis

Christi
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Stille

Germany
45 Posts

Posted - Sep 18 2019 :  07:14:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Cato,

I use all of the sutras from the german translation and one personal addition ("Luzide Träume") for lucid dreaming. I found the AYP translation to be better than my own attempt, except "Nach innen gerichtete Sinnlichkeit" because it is very long to think that one. I still use it though because the actual words doesn't matter that much. The intent that is released with them is the important factor. I was close to changing it to "Innere Sinnlichkeit" multiple times though. I wouldn't change the word Akasha (I think Yogani says that as well). I was thinking of "Akasha - Leicht wie Luft" at first but then didn't use it.

I wanted to use Glanz and Reichtum as well, before I checked with the offical translation

Before I started Samyama I thought about the meaning of all my chosen sutras for a while and during practise I just have confidence in the process.

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Cato

Germany
51 Posts

Posted - Sep 18 2019 :  10:04:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to both of you
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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 18 2019 :  10:21:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Cato and all,

Just to clarify something from earlier in this discussion, Spinal Breathing is actually also an optional practice in AYP. Some people simply never take it on, using only Deep Meditation, or DM and Samyama as the core of their practice.

Even Deep Meditation is not compulsory, because some people are self-pacing down to breathing meditation, or the passive awareness technique, due to over-sensitivity to the mantra.

In terms of the order to take practices on, I would suggest the order in which they are introduced in the main lessons. They generally start with the more gentle techniques and progress gradually to the more powerful techniques such as the advanced pranayamas and self-inquiry. No practice is compulsory, so people can skip one if they are not drawn to it, and move on to the next.

People do not need to follow that guidance though. Some may choose to practice Deep Meditation and then take on Self-Inquiry when inner silence becomes strong for example. AYP is an open system and there is a lot of flexibility in it.

In terms of finding the time, my experience is that it is possible. There are two things that often happen. One is that we can find that as we progress, we need less sleep. So, we are simply able to get up earlier in the morning than we used to. If we are getting up at 5am or 6am instead of 7am or 8am, it becomes very easy to do a lot in the mornings in terms of spiritual practices. The other thing I found was that as we progress we tend to become more dedicated to the path and realize just how important it is. When that happens, we can often make time by practicing instead of doing things that are maybe less productive. My own routine was around 75 minutes, twice a day, for quite a number of years.

Being flexible is important as well, because some days it is not going to be possible, especially if work is demanding, or we have small children or family commitments. So, we have to be realistic and practice well when we can. Whatever works!

Christi
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Stille

Germany
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Posted - Sep 18 2019 :  4:46:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for clarifaction Christi
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