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masterosho
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 Posted - Dec 14 2014 : 11:46:26 PM
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hello to all , im very much new to solo tantra , im meditating since last 2 yers now and thought of giving a try to tantra iv read the book of mantak chia orgasm man , i wanted to ask that while masturbating and while reaching the point of no return i stop and contact my pc muscle but still 1 drop or 2 drop of semen ejaculates not full as it should be , i feel the orgasm but the drop still there so the question is whether its normal if a drop released or what should i do ??
and for many yrs i never looked at porn movies but now days i watch and meditate over it and watch my sexuality as it goes up and down, i want to ask this whether this is rite or there is any other way because iv learnt old tantraic use to meditate on nude females, could anyone pls put some light on this
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Dogboy
USA
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 2:39:46 PM
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Hello Masterosho, welcome to the AYP forums.
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i wanted to ask that while masturbating and while reaching the point of no return i stop and contact my pc muscle but still 1 drop or 2 drop of semen ejaculates not full as it should be , i feel the orgasm but the drop still there so the question is whether its normal if a drop released or what should i do ??
What should you do? The idea is to stay pre-orgasmic, and to pull any arousal and sexual energy upward. A drop or two is loss, albeit minimal. Chances are it is more than a drop or two, no? How about when the erection fades, is there leakage then?
Yoga is a wonderful pursuit; the idea that sexuality can advance one spiritually is the best of all worlds! Where was this knowledge when I was a randy, shameful Catholic teenager? Oh well, better late than never.
Most men are addicted to the process of arousal and then depletion, arousal, depletion, over and over. Build it up to burn it down. Yoga has taught me to strongly favor the arousal end of the equation, and make ejaculation an infrequent outlier. The idea of forgoing ejaculation is a frightening concept: "how will I receive my pleasure?" With active kundalini, there is a lot of pleasure in arousal, especially knowing circulating it upward is a major purifier. Arousal builds upon itself, leading to full body orgasmic feelings with no ejaculation response. In my arousal practices I have been directing arousal to my solar center and radiating it outward from there, "Samyama style", offering it up into the universal pool, or to my ishta. It fills me with verve and happiness that lasts for hours; everyone I interact with afterward is the beneficiary of this arousal fountain!
It's not as if ejaculation is forever off the table. Even Yogani advocates infrequent ejaculation; we are human, not superhuman. If one limits ejaculation to every third or forth sexual act, I think it would not impede spiritual advancement. Don't be afraid to keep it pre-orgasmic; you might discover a whole new playground!
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for many yrs i never looked at porn movies but now days i watch and meditate over it and watch my sexuality as it goes up and down, i want to ask this whether this is rite or there is any other way because iv learnt old tantraic use to meditate on nude females, could anyone pls put some light on this
To be attached to porn is to be attached to lower realms. Porn attaches to your sexual expression, and the body and mind most times becomes dependent on it. Put your mind to better use by allowing it to employ fantasy. You know what turns you on, now imagine it so and build your arousal that way, just like those yogis of old. If you do not have a partner to worship, then either keep your eyes closed or learn to worship what you see in the mirror. If you do not find arousal by the sight of yourself and/or your current partner, then you are destined to be dependent on objects outside your sphere of influence.
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masterosho
India
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Posted - Dec 15 2014 : 7:52:54 PM
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Thank you so much dogboy ji, yes only 2 drop on erection and after when it fades no ejaculation is there , may be in urine it may be but nothing after fading i saw in few days but once this happened what ur telling at no point i went little ahead to see what happens as it tried to ejaculate i contacted my pc muscle and i was happy to see that nothing ejaculated but after around 15 s seconds as the erection faded it did ejaculate so from that i knew where i should stop but now when i stop before i told only 1 drop or 2 drops ejaculates :) so should i assume that this is normal if it ejaculates 1 to 2 drops because i feel very orgasmic at that point ...
regrading porn,thanks to meditation and existence i dont say im very strong in meditation but when ever i want to leave i can , there is no hard fast rule that i just want to see , i see just to get my arousal very high and check my feeling what is happening and then as you have suggested pull any arousal and sexual energy upward that i do.and one more thing i would like to tell so that you sir or any other user may help
pulling the arousal upwards what i do is sit and concentrate on my testicles and contract my anus muscle to my down spine and assume energy goes upward to my cervical then to brain , i do this 10 to 15 times and i feel good really pleasant , could anyone pl tell how is this im doing , i will read books also but i want to know from user what they do .. thank you soo much dog boy
iv order 5 books of ayp:tantra, mudra ,samyama, spinal breathing ,deep mediataion |
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nickyryuxx
France
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Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 1:00:33 PM
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Blocking/edging and solo tantra is far from being a good spiritual practice.
It tends to build a dense, polarised accretion of energy which is hard to dissipate and builds blockages. |
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PastMorning
USA
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Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 10:24:35 PM
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Originally posted by nickyryuxx
Blocking/edging and solo tantra is far from being a good spiritual practice.
It tends to build a dense, polarised accretion of energy which is hard to dissipate and builds blockages.
I agree that doing solo-tantra alone isn't the best idea, but only when it isn't complimented with spiritual practices ahead of it.
Practices such as asanas, pranayama, and mediation are great assistants in a solo tantra practice. I wouldn't recommend it if these practices were not utilized. In fact, I would argue that these practices should actually be the focus and anchor before tantra is initiated. |
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adishivayogi
USA
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Posted - Jan 13 2015 : 11:17:55 PM
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| dont go to the point of no return? its far more beneficial to just edge than to try to have an orgasm without ejaculating. i think solo is good to start out with if your single. that way when/if you get a lady you will be able to please her. Im sure most celibates have run into the performing like a 10 year old boy problem before and that isnt the best thing for a relationship. especially since it's likely you won't meet a yogini |
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Kala
USA
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Posted - Mar 05 2015 : 2:58:25 PM
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Masterosho,
I encourage getting guidance from a teacher and other experienced practitioners, in person. It can make a world of difference.
I agree with PastMorning -- Yoga, pranayama and meditation are essential building blocks.
A word of caution. Efforts to practice retention (holding back the ejaculate) can cause alot of physical, emotional and mental stress if the energy is not circulated/integrated adequately.
I have a daily solo practice myself, not always by choice. As long as the energy can be circulated/integrated effectively, then it seems the practice is beneficial. I haven't heard or experienced otherwise. Has anyone heard of or experienced negative effects of a solo practice in which the practitioner is experiencing arousal (either through fantasy or self stim or both) and/or orgasm -- Again, given that the energy is being circulated efficiently.
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Radharani
USA
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Posted - Mar 08 2015 : 12:21:06 AM
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| I had a solo tantric practice for 14 years, by choice, and it was absolutely wonderful and utterly fulfilling. Of course, it was in the context of a very dedicated lifelong daily yoga practice including asana, pranayama and deep meditation. Also, being female, I don't know whether there might be different "issues" for men in this situation. But either way, an integrated yoga practice is definitely a prerequisite. |
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Dennis
USA
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Posted - Apr 30 2015 : 3:51:47 PM
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Hi,
I will sometimes get a drop or two even with holding back. But from what I have heard, if it's clear, it's fluid from the prostate which is ok. If it's white, it's semen. There is also evidence that releasing fluid from the prostate is beneficial, and that it can cause problems if it accumulates for too long.
I can go (in solo practice) just slightly beyond the point of no return and be clenching the pelvic muscles, I can stop contractions before they occur. There is some fluid but it's clear. I've checked my urine afterwards with no sign of semen. Sometimes it's a complete dry contraction which feels like a small orgasm.
So my question is: is this bad as long as no semen is released. |
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Dogboy
USA
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Posted - Apr 30 2015 : 4:31:07 PM
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Hello, Dennis, welcome!
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So my question is: is this bad as long as no semen is released.
It sounds as if you're doing fine. As others have said in this thread, solo tantra works best when accompanied by a stable DM, pranayama, and asana practice. Under these circumstances, an occasional ejaculation (especially for young practitioners) will not derail spiritual progress. At some point your dedicated yoga practice will make brahmacharya automatic and life easier  . |
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Dennis
USA
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Posted - May 02 2015 : 01:30:51 AM
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Hi Dogboy,
Thanks for the welcome. I am indeed doing DM and in a while will start the Spinal Breathing. I did some hatha yoga and TM when younger so I feel right at home with AYP. But I'm taking it slow since I've seen some pretty horrific consequences here when overdone.
As for my question, I'm not ejaculating and I'm (a young) 64 so I haven't had an overwhelming urge to do so. When I get very very close, it can feel like a small orgasm but no semen is released through the penis or into the bladder, so I assume no harm is done, regardless of the contractions.
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Dogboy
USA
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Posted - May 02 2015 : 08:48:45 AM
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Assumption correct and sound play on slow and steady practice . To use (as oppose to waste) sexual energy to better your life and practice is an amazing thing! I love how  makes everything in life better. |
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