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T62 - Orgasm, Vajroli and the Nectar Cycle (Audio)
AYP Plus Additions:
- Tantra, Amrita, and the Nectar Cycle
Mar 5, 2009
It is recommended you read from the beginning of this tantra yoga archive,
as previous lessons are prerequisite to this one. The first lesson is, "What
is tantra yoga?"
Q: Twenty some years ago, I was meditating and I was very
surprised, to put it mildly, when I had an orgasm, and nothing came out! It
was the most exquisitely delightful and pleasurable I'd ever had, by far, as
well you must know. I was also completely dumbfounded because I had never
heard of such a thing happening, nor did I know anyone who did. A book I was
reading described the vajroli process as being about becoming an urdhvareta
(one whose sexual energy is flowing upward), though it didn't even
consciously register when I read it. Of course, now, what I wanted more than
anything was to have that experience again, over and over, but it seemed
that the more I tried, the more it didn't happen.
around with Taoist yoga/tantric practices, and those practices seemed
similar, but never led to anything close to that first vajroli experience.
Mostly, I found them to be interesting, and I knew sexual energy and the
ecstasy possible in meditation were one and the same. I guess they could
best be described using your terminology: pre-orgasmic. It never occurred to
me to try to develop that.
Doing the style of meditation that
brought the first experience over the years, sometimes twice a day, usually
once, the ecstatic experience came about two more times. Not a lot, that's
for sure, but I'd never found another way. When I stumbled upon your
writings, I was quite amazed to find my experiences talked about openly by
someone who knew about them, and I've gotten the impression that those
experiences can be directly sought after, and eventually one can live in
that ecstasy all the time. Since discovering the AYP writings, I've found
that the I AM meditation is very powerful, and surprisingly difficult. The
Kundalini energy does easily activate in the spinal breathing. The style of
meditation I have used for many years seems gentler, easier, even though the
meditation time is longer - I usually mediate for 40 minutes, or longer if
my knees can take it.
I tried, and found, that doing the I AM
meditation and my old style of meditation is too much. So, I've reached a
point where I have to decide to go one way, or the other. Your thoughts were
pretty clear about that dilemma early in the lessons - if you have something
that works, stick with it (Main Lesson
19). Now, I know my old style of meditation works, and I have stuck with
it. However, I recently retired and decided what I really want to do before
I die is to seek with all my energy to complete that vajroli process, to
have the experience daily, all the time, and perhaps 3 times in over twenty
years isn't enough and won't get me there, although even three times is
A: Thanks much for your
kind note and sharing.
The way we look at vajroli in AYP is as a
constituent part of the neurobiology of enlightenment, the part associated
with rising sexual essences in the "nectar cycle," as discussed in
Main Lesson 304.
regard vajroli mainly as an effect of core practices, which only then can
become an effective cause feeding into the overall rise of ecstatic
conductivity (kundalini). Approaching vajroli as a primary cause can lead to
excessive focus on "mechanical vajroli." In AYP the focus is on core
practices (deep meditation, spinal breathing pranayama, etc.), leading to
"natural vajroli," which is the ongoing 24/7 rise of ecstatic energies in
the neurobiology, as discussed in Tantra Lesson 60.
So I think you have the right approach focusing on your core sitting
practices, rather than pursuing mechanical vajroli.
As for what AYP
might add to your process, that is really up to you. If you have a method of
meditation that works well for you, cultivating abiding inner silence, then
it is not for me to encourage you otherwise. I would caution you not to
"double up" with similar practices from different systems, as this can lead
to overloads. You found this out about using two styles of meditation
already. The same goes for pranayama, mudras and bandhas, etc. However, if
you find elements in AYP that are not in your current routine, you may be
able to add components that will enhance your progress.
nudging the vajroli process along in concert with other practices, do
continue your study of AYP Tantra lessons, and also the main lessons on
mudras, bandhas, siddhasana (especially), and other "stimulative" practice
add-ons that might fit into your routine without doubling up on practices
you are already doing. All of these things can accelerate the rise of
ecstatic conductivity and natural vajroli. Be sure to self-pace for comfort
and safety. Just because you have more time does not mean unlimited
practice. There is a limit to what each of us can assimilate in a given
time, and you will find out where your boundaries are. The rest of your time
can be spent usefully in study, self-inquiry, and service, all which are
important components of our path when we become naturally inclined to engage
in them without forcing.
Further questions on vajroli and all
practices can be covered much more thoroughly in the
AYP Support Forums, where many
can help and benefit from the discussions. In fact, if you do a few searches
there, you will find that many discussions on vajroli and related aspects of
practice have occurred there already.
If "dry orgasm" is something
you are interested in exploring further, see
As you will see, multiple
dry orgasms are actually a fairly rudimentary stage of the journey. Once
established, natural vajroli is something that is going on all the time, and
though it could be said to be "orgasmic," it doesn't ever end, so it isn't
viewed as a peak experience anymore. It is just life in the ongoing process
of ecstatic bliss and outpouring divine love, occurring constantly in our
abiding inner silence. In AYP, we also call this "stillness in action," and
it brings much joy and goodness into our life, and into the world around us.
Wishing you all the best on your continuing path. Enjoy!
The guru is in you.
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Note: For detailed
instructions on the methods of tantra in relation to the broad scope of yoga
practices and the enlightenment process,
see the AYP Tantra book.
discussion on the neurobiology of the nectar cycle, see the Diet,
Shatkarmas and Amaroli book, Also see