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Chiron
New Zealand
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 Posted - Oct 09 2010 : 02:37:03 AM
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eyeknownothing
USA
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Posted - Aug 31 2012 : 01:35:51 AM
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Carson et al,
I might be a little late, but I thought I could definitely add something to this discussion.
I don't think heavy, intense music is intrinsically bad for people or animals. All the world consists of the interplay of positive and negative, yang and yin. It is our fear-based judgment thoughts that attach a "bad" meaning to an energy when we choose not to accept something as part of our universe. Many times, fear responses arise when a person encounters an intense onslaught of the unknown, because it breaks a conditioned ego-pattern which is effectively an ego-kill that forces us to the individuate. Such things of course then free us from the bonds of our ego and allow us to incorporate a broader spectrum of the previously unknown universe. The spiritual purpose of creepiness and intense, "violent" music. I think it's very good that you're so comfortable with this experience, because there's truly nothing to fear and no need to attach a victim response to anything the world puts in front of oneself.
On the other hand, intense energy and new experiences can certainly cause physical problems in beings unaccustomed to those higher voltages: the rabbit heart attack, or when people vomit or run to the toilet when they aren't used to some high-quality bud or a mind-blowing experience or idea. It can also be a problem when so many people's instinctual first reaction to new levels of intensity is to view it is some kind of energetic assault and return the violence, or simply react with a closed base chakra self-defense response because the system is unable to sublimate the energy to higher centers.
So I think mercy and putting oneself in others' shoes is important to temper the strength of the energy. We can certainly dole out the dosage of electrification carefully so as to energize and promote the evolution of the beings around us without setting them ablaze or the like.
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Leo17
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - Sep 03 2012 : 12:02:14 PM
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Originally posted by stevenbhow
I've already had this discussion with Cosmic, but I'm pretty sure the Chili Peppers are experiencing Kriyas in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISIF...next_from=PL
I know they've all done their share of drugs, but I don't know if any of them practice Yoga or not. I know Anthony has met the Dalia Lama a few times. The lyrics, while fairly simple, I would say are definitely about self-inquiry.
Carson,
Interesting stuff about the animals. I feel that animals can really sense my energy as well. I don't think I am at your level of ecstatic conductivity but there is certainly a connection.
I remember hearing Stuart Wilde talk about how dogs absorb our "crap".
I've also wondered about RHCP and their music being highly spiritual. I bought their greatest hits album and the music struck a chord in my soul like nothing else. Was unbelievable. Here's two that really speak to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kT5w27YxyI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XcN12uVHeQ
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cosmic
USA
724 Posts |
Posted - Sep 03 2012 : 10:33:32 PM
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Namaste Leo,
I've posted this somewhere before (a few years ago, maybe as cosmic_troll) but this song really resonated with me as being spiritual. Being about God, actually.
Don't Forget Me
RHCP played a meaningful, vital role in my spiritual awakening in 2001.
Hope you enjoy the song.
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cosmic
USA
724 Posts |
Posted - Sep 03 2012 : 10:40:05 PM
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Originally posted by cosmic
RHCP played a meaningful, vital role in my spiritual awakening in 2001.
I don't share this often, but God speaks to me through this song:
Under the Bridge
It ALWAYS plays when something significant (spiritually) is happening in my life.
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Leo17
USA
29 Posts |
Posted - Sep 11 2012 : 10:12:08 PM
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Hi Cosmic. I really like Don't Forget Me too. Great tune. Yeah RHCP is definitely spiritual to me, speaks to my soul.
Congrats Maheswari on your tickets, I'm jealous! I've always wanted to see them live but never had the chance.
I remember when I moved away from home to Florida by myself, i was drinking heavily down there, experimenting with psychedelics, and jamming to RHCP everyday. Even though I was numbed from 'reality' most of the time, it felt like it was an important part of my journey and I spent it with RHCP everyday.
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Omsat
Belgium
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Posted - Jan 24 2013 : 05:23:34 AM
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Hi CarsonZi,
Thank you for raising this most interesting topic.
I love music and singing and still find myself stunningly surprised at how profoundly it affects my whole being in myriad ways.
As this is an old topic, have you come up with new insights?
Perhaps this could add to the explanation you offered:
Activities that tend to enhance presence, absorbtion and captivate one's full attention tend to have special uplifting effects.
There's so many qualities to music and sound that these can seduce our senses to increasingly becoming absorbed and eventually transcending the sensory.
Krishna's play of the flute seduced thousand gopis into transcending the sensual joy that had taken them to follow his divine play.
This absorption can come through a fascination for beauty, harmony, but also, as you describe, the full intensity of emotion and beyond. The intensity is very much present in bhakti singing especially when the singers have cultivated devotion for their ishta. But equally so there is intensity in the most hard core music whether it is towards light or darkness.
A little off topic but related to the above:
This intensity effect seems to be at play in any undertaking of a seemingly very challenging task requiring full dedication and awareneness, though these may come effortlessly by themselves, adding to the surrendered transcendence feeling.
Hence the high experienced in sports activities or just in overcoming a situation that is challenging for the specific individual (eg. overcoming a fear, whether it is a fear that many people have or not).
As you observed, breath is very much affected in all these circumstances and reflecting the profound effects on our nervous system. Undertaking an activity that affects our nervous system deeply will affect the breath. Or we can directly change the breath and affect the nervous system.
Love :)
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CarsonZi
Canada
2906 Posts |
Posted - Jan 27 2013 : 01:37:20 AM
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Hi Omsat,
No real new insights except that I believe that it is no coincidence that when angels are experienced, they are often singing. 
Love!
Carson |
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Omsat
Belgium
18 Posts |
Posted - Jan 27 2013 : 07:40:59 AM
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mmmmm
Lucky you; coming to hear such lovely beauty
May more of this enJoyment be blessed upon you!
Love :)
Sat
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Originally posted by CarsonZi
Hi Omsat,
No real new insights except that I believe that it is no coincidence that when angels are experienced, they are often singing.
Love!
Carson
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Radharani
USA
523 Posts |
Posted - Jan 30 2013 : 11:23:31 PM
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Dear Carson,
Yes, you are going crazy. LOL! 
I didn't realize this was such an old thread; I didn't see it before, thought I would add my 2 cents.
I suspect it is a pranayama effect, as you stated, as well as possibly tying in with your past experiences of singing praise songs. I have experienced that intensity sometimes, although mainly with songs that have a deep spiritual meaning for me. It is more common when I am at home, in the shower or outside by the pond, etc., as opposed to when I am on stage at karaoke, where I feel the need to be more "in control." I did experience it very much when I was in choir years ago.
With regard to "dark/heavy" music, I LOVE it! and no conflict at all. My favorites are older and a bit more tame than yours, e.g. Iron Maiden, Dio, Ozzy, Metallica, Black Label Society ("Stillborn" blows me away), Dream Theater, and yes, LOVE RHCP and "Under the Bridge" is special to me because it was playing on the radio, me singing along loudly, as I drove out of California and left my life there behind... "Heavy" music makes me happy and cheerful, e.g. "Jump in the Fire" or "The 4 Horsemen" by Metallica. I DESPISE the "new age" nicey-nice music that is normally recommended for meditation. Screw that! Metal cuts right through the bullshit and takes me to the center immediately. I love doing asana with loud metal and feeling the lead guitar (like, a Randy Rhodes solo) searing thru my nervous system, etc. People tell me my metal music is "negative." To each their own.
As for zapping the animals, that does not surprise me at all. My animals and even wild animals respond to whatever state I am in at the time. And I would not rule out the possibility that it could be too overwhelming and even stop a heart, perhaps. I wonder if you could start one back up after it stopped, with that kind of energy? |
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