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497 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:58am
Subject: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? azaz932001
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--- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I do run
over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity which
was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working. Many
years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had symptoms
rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially paralysed
on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
experiences with ARP.
Blessings R.C.
498 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 0:16pm
Subject: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? obsidian9999
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Richard,
I have a lot of experience with TM myself. My experience is that it
can be a very powerful and good technique but can have a lot
of 'stress-release' side-effects, much more than other techniques
do. I did have headaches at various times, but I felt that my
system was adjusting positively at those times and they did pass away.
Of course TM is just a mantra-yoga technique.
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
>
>
> --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I do
run
> over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
which
> was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
Many
> years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
symptoms
> rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially paralysed
> on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> experiences with ARP.
>
> Blessings R.C.
504 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:26pm
Subject: Re: obsidian How many hours of practices everyday? azaz932001
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
> I have a lot of experience with TM myself. My experience is that
it
> can be a very powerful and good technique but can have a lot
> of 'stress-release' side-effects, much more than other techniques
> do. I did have headaches at various times, but I felt that my
> system was adjusting positively at those times and they did pass
away.
>
> Of course TM is just a mantra-yoga technique.
>
>
-D
> It's a wonder I never had more problems as I was doing TM
completely wrong. All my emphasis was on concentration rather than
attention I was forcing all thoughts out of my head and mentally
shouting the mantra, so TM wasn't to blame it was me.
Blessings R.C.
>
509 From: "Kathy" <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:51pm
Subject: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? nagoyasea
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I also did TM for years, but I did it consistently. The only side
effect I remember was getting a headache sometimes if I had a sudden
loud interruption to a meditation.
A few years ago, when not practicing it at all, I realized that TM
actually helped a great deal when I had a migraine. I tried
meditation just on the chance it might help.
When I started getting migraines more frequently, I started back in
my meditation practices on a regular basis. I haven't needed any
migraine meds since beginning the AYP practices regularly. That is
only one of the pleasant side effects...
Kathy
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
> I have a lot of experience with TM myself. My experience is that
it
> can be a very powerful and good technique but can have a lot
> of 'stress-release' side-effects, much more than other techniques
> do. I did have headaches at various times, but I felt that my
> system was adjusting positively at those times and they did pass
away.
>
> Of course TM is just a mantra-yoga technique.
>
> -D
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I
do
> run
> > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
> which
> > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
> Many
> > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> symptoms
> > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
paralysed
> > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > experiences with ARP.
> >
> > Blessings R.C.
661 From: Mike <mikeroyusa@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:35pm
Subject: Re: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? mikeroyusa
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Where does one find instructions such as in AYP for
TM?
Mike
--- Kathy <nagoyasea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I also did TM for years, but I did it consistently.
> The only side
> effect I remember was getting a headache sometimes
> if I had a sudden
> loud interruption to a meditation.
>
> A few years ago, when not practicing it at all, I
> realized that TM
> actually helped a great deal when I had a migraine.
> I tried
> meditation just on the chance it might help.
>
> When I started getting migraines more frequently, I
> started back in
> my meditation practices on a regular basis. I
> haven't needed any
> migraine meds since beginning the AYP practices
> regularly. That is
> only one of the pleasant side effects...
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999"
> <obsidian9999@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > I have a lot of experience with TM myself. My
> experience is that
> it
> > can be a very powerful and good technique but can
> have a lot
> > of 'stress-release' side-effects, much more than
> other techniques
> > do. I did have headaches at various times, but I
> felt that my
> > system was adjusting positively at those times and
> they did pass
> away.
> >
> > Of course TM is just a mantra-yoga technique.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for
> me, although I
> do
> > run
> > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just
> increased the
> > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the
> ecstatic conductivity
> > which
> > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute
> sessions. I welcome
> > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am
> doing is working.
> > Many
> > > years ago when I was doing TM rather
> indiscriminately I had
> > symptoms
> > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became
> partially
> paralysed
> > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have
> had no bad
> > > experiences with ARP.
> > >
> > > Blessings R.C.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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664 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:29pm
Subject: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? obsidian9999
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Mike,
What the 'TM' organization calls TM is an ancient meditation
technique sometimes called 'mantra yoga' in India. Yogani's lesson
13 is basically this technique.
Regards,
-D
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Mike <mikeroyusa@y...> wrote:
>
> Where does one find instructions such as in AYP for
> TM?
>
> Mike
> --- Kathy <nagoyasea@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I also did TM for years, but I did it consistently.
> > The only side
> > effect I remember was getting a headache sometimes
> > if I had a sudden
> > loud interruption to a meditation.
> >
> > A few years ago, when not practicing it at all, I
> > realized that TM
> > actually helped a great deal when I had a migraine.
> > I tried
> > meditation just on the chance it might help.
> >
> > When I started getting migraines more frequently, I
> > started back in
> > my meditation practices on a regular basis. I
> > haven't needed any
> > migraine meds since beginning the AYP practices
> > regularly. That is
> > only one of the pleasant side effects...
> >
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999"
> > <obsidian9999@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard,
> > >
> > > I have a lot of experience with TM myself. My
> > experience is that
> > it
> > > can be a very powerful and good technique but can
> > have a lot
> > > of 'stress-release' side-effects, much more than
> > other techniques
> > > do. I did have headaches at various times, but I
> > felt that my
> > > system was adjusting positively at those times and
> > they did pass
> > away.
> > >
> > > Of course TM is just a mantra-yoga technique.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for
> > me, although I
> > do
> > > run
> > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just
> > increased the
> > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the
> > ecstatic conductivity
> > > which
> > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute
> > sessions. I welcome
> > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am
> > doing is working.
> > > Many
> > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather
> > indiscriminately I had
> > > symptoms
> > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became
> > partially
> > paralysed
> > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have
> > had no bad
> > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > >
> > > > Blessings R.C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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706 From: "Kathy" <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Apr 14, 2005 0:05pm
Subject: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? nagoyasea
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Mike,
David's reply is right on. To do TM you have to pay a hefty fee and
learn the technique from a trained TM teacher. It is a wonderful
experience and good meditation, but it is the same meditation
technique that you'll find in Yogani's lessons. You might just be
using a different mantra.
In my humble opinion, you are better off studying the AYP lessons
and doing the AYP meditation. After you get that down, you can add
the spinal breathing, and then more as you progress.
I asked Yogani in an email when I first started the AYP mediation if
I could just use my TM mantra since it was so similar to what he was
teaching. In a very kind and thorough reply he suggested that the
mantra in the AYP would take us farther along our path than what we
might have learned in TM.
In light and love,
Kathy
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> What the 'TM' organization calls TM is an ancient meditation
> technique sometimes called 'mantra yoga' in India. Yogani's
lesson
> 13 is basically this technique.
>
> Regards,
>
> -D
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Mike <mikeroyusa@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Where does one find instructions such as in AYP for
> > TM?
> >
> > Mike
> > --- Kathy <nagoyasea@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I also did TM for years, but I did it consistently.
> > > The only side
> > > effect I remember was getting a headache sometimes
> > > if I had a sudden
> > > loud interruption to a meditation.
> > >
> > > A few years ago, when not practicing it at all, I
> > > realized that TM
> > > actually helped a great deal when I had a migraine.
> > > I tried
> > > meditation just on the chance it might help.
> > >
> > > When I started getting migraines more frequently, I
> > > started back in
> > > my meditation practices on a regular basis. I
> > > haven't needed any
> > > migraine meds since beginning the AYP practices
> > > regularly. That is
> > > only one of the pleasant side effects...
> > >
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999"
> > > <obsidian9999@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard,
> > > >
> > > > I have a lot of experience with TM myself. My
> > > experience is that
> > > it
> > > > can be a very powerful and good technique but can
> > > have a lot
> > > > of 'stress-release' side-effects, much more than
> > > other techniques
> > > > do. I did have headaches at various times, but I
> > > felt that my
> > > > system was adjusting positively at those times and
> > > they did pass
> > > away.
> > > >
> > > > Of course TM is just a mantra-yoga technique.
> > > >
> > > > -D
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > > > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for
> > > me, although I
> > > do
> > > > run
> > > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just
> > > increased the
> > > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the
> > > ecstatic conductivity
> > > > which
> > > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute
> > > sessions. I welcome
> > > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am
> > > doing is working.
> > > > Many
> > > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather
> > > indiscriminately I had
> > > > symptoms
> > > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became
> > > partially
> > > paralysed
> > > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have
> > > had no bad
> > > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Blessings R.C.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
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707 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:01pm
Subject: Re: How many hours of practices everyday? obsidian9999
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Thankyou Kathy.
It was (and still is?) by the way, the practice of the TM organize to
tell you that the intructor was trained (in a secret method) to
determine a mantra, individually tailored for your 'energies'.
Sometimes this was used to explain why you should pay the hefty fee
(since this tailor-chosen mantra would surely be better for you).
In time it came out (through court documents and so on) that the TM
instructors were simply given a table with mantras listed against age
range. They simply looked up your age in a table and gave you the
mantra listed against it.
When paying hefty fees, buyer beware!
> Mike,
>
> David's reply is right on. To do TM you have to pay a hefty fee and
> learn the technique from a trained TM teacher. It is a wonderful
> experience and good meditation, but it is the same meditation
> technique that you'll find in Yogani's lessons. You might just be
> using a different mantra.
>
> In my humble opinion, you are better off studying the AYP lessons
> and doing the AYP meditation. After you get that down, you can add
> the spinal breathing, and then more as you progress.
>
> I asked Yogani in an email when I first started the AYP mediation
if
> I could just use my TM mantra since it was so similar to what he
was
> teaching. In a very kind and thorough reply he suggested that the
> mantra in the AYP would take us farther along our path than what we
> might have learned in TM.
>
> In light and love,
>
> Kathy
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > What the 'TM' organization calls TM is an ancient meditation
> > technique sometimes called 'mantra yoga' in India. Yogani's
> lesson
> > 13 is basically this technique.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -D
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