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Echo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 06:46:00 AM
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I have another question. About a week or so ago, during the evening meditation, I began to feel tired and that the meditation was not going well. Then my head went forward, as in Jalandhara. After about maybe 10 -15 seconds, I raised my head, and felt what was like a lump stuck on the right hand side of my throat.
Now maybe it’s just a coincidence, but it is still there. It’s not painful, it just feels strange, but sometimes seems to reach down into my chest.
I expect it’s come up before, but if you do a search on “throat”, you get 8 pages of posts! So, do you think this is just another of those “it’s just prana purifying your system” scenarios?
Or maybe I anciently swallowed a fly? |
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Richard
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 10:30:55 AM
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Hi Echo
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I expect it’s come up before, but if you do a search on “throat”, you get 8 pages of posts! So, do you think this is just another of those “it’s just prana purifying your system” scenarios?
Throat and neck blockages (which this sounds like) are very common everybody gets them from time to time nothing to worry about usually, just carry on doing the practices and it should clear.
You might like to try Lesson 139 - Dynamic Jalandhara its a very good for getting past neck block but gently at first its a very powerful practice and can easily send you over the top and definitely don't do it if you think there is any strain there.
On the other hand we do all tend to put everything that happens down to purification and blockages clearing so if the problem persists and especially if it gets worse go see a doc just in case its something physical.
On the other hand perhaps you did swallow a fly  |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 10:40:37 AM
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Originally posted by Richard
Hi Echo
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I expect it’s come up before, but if you do a search on “throat”, you get 8 pages of posts! So, do you think this is just another of those “it’s just prana purifying your system” scenarios?
Throat and neck blockages (which this sounds like) are very common everybody gets them from time to time nothing to worry about usually, just carry on doing the practices and it should clear.
You might like to try Lesson 139 - Dynamic Jalandhara its a very good for getting past neck block but gently at first its a very powerful practice and can easily send you over the top and definitely don't do it if you think there is any strain there.
On the other hand we do all tend to put everything that happens down to purification and blockages clearing so if the problem persists and especially if it gets worse go see a doc just in case its something physical.
On the other hand perhaps you did swallow a fly
Hi Richard,
Thanks you for the reply. I'll check out the lesson on Dynamic Jalandhara. If that dose not work I suppose I could try swallowing a spider.................... |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 2:11:33 PM
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| I tried adding Dynamic Jalandhara to my practice this evening. I had to stop after a couple of rounds. It felt like my tongue was burning!...............interesting. |
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Richard
United Kingdom
857 Posts |
Posted - Jan 29 2008 : 2:47:23 PM
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I tried adding Dynamic Jalandhara to my practice this evening. I had to stop after a couple of rounds. It felt like my tongue was burning!...............interesting.
Yes interesting sounds like it definitely could be a block there, maybe best to just stick to normal practices and see if it clears on its own, don't overdo it you may even need to cut back a bit. |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 11:01:58 AM
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| Actually, it seems to have helped. It's still there but much reduced, so maybe it did help after all. I think that I'll leave it out of my practice for now though! |
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Richard
United Kingdom
857 Posts |
Posted - Jan 30 2008 : 2:51:54 PM
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Actually, it seems to have helped. It's still there but much reduced, so maybe it did help after all. I think that I'll leave it out of my practice for now though!
Glad I was able to help its a good idea to just go back to the practices you were doing before though and add new things bit by bit always remember to self pace. |
Edited by - Richard on Jan 30 2008 2:54:06 PM |
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 11:38:17 AM
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Originally posted by Echo
I tried adding Dynamic Jalandhara to my practice this evening. I had to stop after a couple of rounds. It felt like my tongue was burning!...............interesting.
Hi Echo:
You might try doing a couple of rotations of chin pump (dynamic jalandhara) each day without breath retention ("chin pump lite"). The idea is to continue with the purification process without overdoing -- finding your balance in practice. It does not have to be all or nothing.
Obviously it works for you. It is only a matter of scaling the practice for comfort. That is self-pacing.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 12:24:28 PM
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Originally posted by yogani
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Originally posted by Echo
I tried adding Dynamic Jalandhara to my practice this evening. I had to stop after a couple of rounds. It felt like my tongue was burning!...............interesting.
Hi Echo:
You might try doing a couple of rotations of chin pump (dynamic jalandhara) each day without breath retention ("chin pump lite"). The idea is to continue with the purification process without overdoing -- finding your balance in practice. It does not have to be all or nothing.
Obviously it works for you. It is only a matter of scaling the practice for comfort. That is self-pacing.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
Hi Yogani,
The pressure, though I can still feel it a little, has almost gone now. I’m pretty sure it was some sort of block as the pranayama seems to going a lot easier now. 
I’m just starting to get over the clunky phase of Yoni Mudra Kumbhaka, so am a little reluctant to add anything new just yet!
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 12:54:51 PM
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Originally posted by Echo
The pressure, though I can still feel it a little, has almost gone now. I’m pretty sure it was some sort of block as the pranayama seems to going a lot easier now.
I’m just starting to get over the clunky phase of Yoni Mudra Kumbhaka, so am a little reluctant to add anything new just yet!
Hi Echo:
Glad to hear things are smoothing out in the throat area.
Yoni mudra kumbhaka is a big step, and you are wise to give it plenty of time to stabilize. Even after it is stable, ongoing self-pacing will be necessary, because it is a strong energy stimulator, especially when integrated with other practices in the routine.
Industrial strength yoga that won't fly out of control. What we have always wanted, yes?
The guru is in you.
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Feb 05 2008 : 2:09:55 PM
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Originally posted by yogani
Hi Echo:
Glad to hear things are smoothing out in the throat area.
Yoni mudra kumbhaka is a big step, and you are wise to give it plenty of time to stabilize. Even after it is stable, ongoing self-pacing will be necessary, because it is a strong energy stimulator, especially when integrated with other practices in the routine.
Industrial strength yoga that won't fly out of control. What we have always wanted, yes?
The guru is in you.
I agree with you about Yoni Mudra Kumbhaka being “Industrial strength yoga”! I’m only doing two rounds at the mo – and that is plenty.
I have found that it certainly makes a difference to the meditation afterwards. I can’t imagine doing 5 or more! Lol. Maybe this time next year…………. |
Edited by - Echo on Feb 05 2008 3:47:14 PM |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 2:46:16 PM
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Man, I really don’t know what is going on here! The lump /pressure feeling is back, so this evening I tried the chin pump again, as it seemed to help last time. This time I managed 3 rounds before my tongue got too “hot”. Afterwards, during the meditation, first my cheeks seemed to take on a life of their own moving around and pulling faces. Then my throat felt like it was moving around and started ticking!
I don’t know if it is connected with my practice or not. The feeling seems centred on the right side of my throat, but not in or on it, and feels connected to my ear, and down into my chest – to about 3” above my nipple.
I don’t think I have been over doing the practice – my mood is good and apart from this strange throat thing I feel fine.
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Ute
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Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 2:57:33 PM
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Originally posted by Echo
I have another question. About a week or so ago, during the evening meditation, I began to feel tired and that the meditation was not going well. Then my head went forward, as in Jalandhara. After about maybe 10 -15 seconds, I raised my head, and felt what was like a lump stuck on the right hand side of my throat.
Now maybe it’s just a coincidence, but it is still there. It’s not painful, it just feels strange, but sometimes seems to reach down into my chest.
I expect it’s come up before, but if you do a search on “throat”, you get 8 pages of posts! So, do you think this is just another of those “it’s just prana purifying your system” scenarios?
Or maybe I anciently swallowed a fly?
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Richard
United Kingdom
857 Posts |
Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 3:00:44 PM
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| Hi Echo this sounds like Automatic Yoga so have a look at the highlighted link if you find this too scary or disturbing you definitely need to cut back a bit but there really is nothing to worry about it will ease with time you are experiencing a lot of of automatic Yoga because a strong purification is going on |
Edited by - Richard on Feb 06 2008 7:20:36 PM |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Feb 06 2008 : 3:33:04 PM
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Thanks Richard. I don’t find it disturbing or anything, it’s just that I’m not sure what the cause is, if it is just part of the normal process, and if it will go away eventually!
Whatever it is, the chin pump seems to help, so maybe I'll keep it in my practice for a while. I actually quite like it and don't fnd it too clunky, just a bit hot on the tongue.
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tadeas
Czech Republic
314 Posts |
Posted - Apr 03 2008 : 4:27:59 PM
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How's it going, Echo?
I've had the same problem for some time now, but haven't tried chin pump, yet. For me it comes up mainly in the morning after waking up and then during sittings. It's also combined with a slight sorethroat or maybe something like "heartburn", but not exactly that. It feels like there's something I should swallow, but it doesn't go away after swallowing.
My tongue also wants to go into kechari, but it's not in stage 2 yet. Could be somehow related?
We'll see :) |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Apr 03 2008 : 5:09:11 PM
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Originally posted by tadeas
How's it going, Echo?
I've had the same problem for some time now, but haven't tried chin pump, yet. For me it comes up mainly in the morning after waking up and then during sittings. It's also combined with a slight sorethroat or maybe something like "heartburn", but not exactly that. It feels like there's something I should swallow, but it doesn't go away after swallowing.
My tongue also wants to go into kechari, but it's not in stage 2 yet. Could be somehow related?
We'll see :)
Well, a funny thing happened a while ago. I was all chirpy and singing to myself, just about to get into a nice bath. Suddenly, for no reason, I began to remember a period when I was having a really really hard time. I was under a lot of stress and emotional pressure. I hadn’t realized till then just how bad it was. In fact there were times when I was so upset that I couldn’t speak – in fact I was choked. I then remembered other similar times when I was “choked”. Needless to say that a lot of emotional release happened.
Anyway, the “lump in throat” syndrome seems to be better now thanks!
I don’t know if your problem could be similar. Maybe it is your tongue stretching back making your throat sore? I dropped both the chin pump and the yoni mudra. I think the yoni mudra made it worse, but then at least it now seems to have been dealt with.
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scottfitzgerald
USA
65 Posts |
Posted - Apr 03 2008 : 9:45:42 PM
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I have experienced the same thing with my throat in the past. I found it be something that I either had decided/felt I couldn't handle (couldn't swallow) or it was a clamped down cry...if you have ever experienced that burning in the throat that can precede a hard cry, that point before your body and emotions give into the guttural wail, that is how it felt to me. Many of the blockages I have dealt with flittered away after a really good cry.
I have also found camel pose and fish pose to help open the area of my throat.
Side note--during serious hard crying was when I really had my first glimspe of the witness. |
Edited by - scottfitzgerald on Apr 03 2008 10:21:43 PM |
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Echo
United Kingdom
48 Posts |
Posted - Apr 04 2008 : 03:00:05 AM
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Hi Scott,
Thank you for your input. I’m glad I’m not the only one!
I just wanted to add how much I appreciated your post in the “Where am I now” thread.
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....D=3691#32005
That seems to be exactly where I am now – getting results, wanting to go faster, going too fast! My latest problem is headaches that last all week. After reading your post, I realised that I had unintentionally started to become more and more aggressive with my practice. I think it is something that can creep up on one. So, anyway, I have gone back to being as gentle as I can during practice, without cutting back as such. The headache is now receding. That post of yours should be a sticky!
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Apkallu
France
108 Posts |
Posted - Sep 21 2015 : 11:37:26 AM
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Hi,
Practicing Asanas, Pranayama, DM, Samyama since 1is of January 2015
Started amaroli 3 weeks ago and Mulabandha/Shambavi Mudra
One month ago, I felt like a pressure on the throat, not painful at all but just like a force field circling it... happened only one time.
Humming sometimes but not on my own...
Last time, I felt something really strange : when swallowing, I could not feel anything at all. I mean like my throat disappeared. I did swallow for sure but could not feel my throat nor the swallowing effect !!!
And this was like my nose, sinuses were secreting something weird I cannot describe 
Many other things not related to the throat but affecting my face, ears, etc.
For the moment, I dare not to include the chin pump or additional practices, but if you have any idea, feel free to comment 
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