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88 From: "Nuno Godinho" <eu@nunogodinho.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 10:34am
Subject: RE: Karma Yoga with AYP nfgodinho
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Hi Satish,
Are you being ironic? :)
Please understand that what I wrote below didn't mean to be arrogant or my
final opinion. I joined this forum to learn and I believe that exposing my
ideas, even if wrong or naif, is the best way to learn.
I didn't understand what you meant.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Satish [mailto:satishc_1999@yahoo.com]
> Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 14:35
> To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
>
>
> Hi brother,
> when u say......"I believe I can judge levels of behaviors
> even if I CANNOT judge levels of people.".....its an
> achivment.......keep going......
>
>
>
> Nuno Godinho <eu@nunogodinho.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I do try to avoid being moralist and be aware that all
> my judgements are relative to my limited reality and can be
> wrong. Nevertheless if I see someone consciously doing
> something in order to prejudice someone else I can
> objectively say that it is wrong. I may still accept the idea
> that at a karmic level maybe it had to happen. But
> objectively one can have an opinion on that.
>
> Tell me, imagine that you know for sure that someone took
> money from you.
> When you ask him he tells you that he didn't take any money
> from you. He lied. Independently of the consequences of that
> lie and independently of the context now you know that that
> person can lie to you. You can still be his friend if you
> understand his context and that doesn't make him necessarily
> a bad person. But he lied and that is a bad action.
>
> Last year I went to Dharamsala in India and listened to the
> Dalai Lama teachings. At some point he said something really
> interesting: one should distinguish the "doer" from the
> "deed". That means one should judge the actions but never
> judge the person.
>
> So I believe I can judge levels of behaviors even if I CANNOT
> judge levels of people.
>
> Nuno
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Satish [mailto:satishc_1999@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 14:00
> > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> >
> >
> > ..who r we to judge the levels?............do we have our own
> > standards?........and ....if yes.......on what basis?......
> > .....we are all in the hands of of our
> creater........which.who is not
> > known to us yet........we have no option but to follow his/her/its
> > desire........and thats the life.......ALAS!
> >
> > Nuno Godinho <eu@nunogodinho.com> wrote:
> >
> > I also agree that mother nature has all at same level.
> > Nevertheless if we are talking about behaviors we must be able to
> > qualify and quantify. I am not saying that people who act badly in
> > their lives deserve less love from others or are forever in a lower
> > level. That was not my intention at all.
> > Nevertheless one can distinguish one person who
> unconsciously does a
> > selfish act but regrets it when becomes aware if it from
> another one
> > who keeps doing them aware of the harm that it does on
> others. These
> > are different levels. I am not judging the people in their
> nature, I
> > am judging their behavior patterns.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Satish [mailto:satishc_1999@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 13:36
> > > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> > >
> > >
> > > ......friends.....sorry to interupt......
> > > the very 1sr thing i would like to mention
> > .......that......there are
> > > .......no 'levels'
> > > ...these r all "created" by us........."THE MOTHER NATURE
> > HAS ALL AT
> > > SAME LEVEL".......as per the performance.....
> > > .....We....all......have been created to serve a specific
> > purpose (not
> > > yet known to us) within a specified time (our life
> span)......if we
> > > can not....chances r given.....again and
> > agian..........WHY?......WHAT
> > > IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAY?.......
> > > THE SOUL PORPOSE OF OUR BEINGNESS here IS TO FIND WHAT IS
> > REQUIRED FOR
> > > EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND HOW TO ACHIVE IT.
> > >
> > > Nuno Godinho <eu@nunogodinho.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Near,
> > >
> > > I believe you are confusing two very different levels of
> goodness.
> > >
> > > One is, what I believe to be yours, in which one is
> > sincerely full of
> > > good intentions and sometimes eventually doesn't work
> hard enough.
> > > This kind of person does try to be good and being aware of
> > this need
> > > to act good is a great thing.
> > >
> > > The other is that of people who are cynical and couldn't
> care less
> > > about being good. This accounts or lots of people who
> keep talking
> > > about being good but don't act like that. People who
> pretend to be
> > > nice but then don't care about the means to reach their goals. I
> > > already met a lot of these people who talk about yoga, spiritual
> > > development and being good and seem really convinced
> about this but
> > > then move in the opposite direction.
> > >
> > > The latter are the people who can misuse the "powers" you
> > talk about.
> > > I wouldn't worry with the first ones. So, there isn't much
> > one can do
> > > about the cynical people and I can't see how your warning
> > will reach
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Bye,
> > > Nuno
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nearoanoke [mailto:nearoanoke@yahoo.com]
> > > > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 5:49
> > > > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The goal of all meditation or spiritual practices or AYP
> > > should be in
> > > > doing good and becoming good. Isnt it? It should be.
> > Otherwise our
> > > > lives can go onto the dangerous side with these powerful
> > > practices in
> > > > our hand. There is every possibility of misusing them
> if we dont
> > > > decide within ourselves to be good.
> > > >
> > > > AYP can give us powers, can give us control, can give us
> > > the ability
> > > > to "be cool". At the same time we should also use it to
> make our
> > > > conscience stronger. I do recollect Yogani saying that AYP
> > > practices
> > > > will naturally make us more good too but still I think we
> > > need to put
> > > > efforts from our own side.
> > > > Atleast thats some scale on which we can test our progress.
> > > > Am I less selfish today compared to yesterday is the
> > > question we need
> > > > to ask ourselves everyday.
> > > >
> > > > Ofcourse whenever i try to be good and unselfish, my genetical
> > > > obstructions and my past life karma obstructions will come
> > > in the way.
> > > > I wont force myself and do good against these. But I
> > gently try to
> > > > push the limits and see if I can be unselfish. Thats how I test
> > > > myself. With increasing meditation practices everyday,
> > > slowly I feel
> > > > we will become more unselfish and more of divine nature.
> > > >
> > > > Please share your opinions on what you think about karma
> > > yoga and AYP
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Near
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89 From: "Paula Youmans" <paula@webboise.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 0:00pm
Subject: RE: Karma Yoga with AYP paula_youmans
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Hi Everyone -
I have not introduced myself yet, but my name is Paula. I remember some of
you from various other sites, so hello
To old friends and greetings to new! I just had a Baby girl, Kairi
Elizabeth, who is now 4 months old, so I don't get to write terribly often
But do read through all of the posts. Luckily, she happens to be napping
right now!
I completely understand the rising sensitivity to the "actions of others/
state of the world" that some experience. When I first began
Taking a conscious responsibility over my spiritual life, certain
realizations would stab into my solar plexus like a knife and then slowly
twist
Over a period of time until I came to a new realization (a healing I
suppose). What I have learned is that these realizations change over time,
And some even come back again in new light. I learn, I change, and life
continues to be.
Good/Bad, right/wrong.it's so perceptional that I don't even think about it
anymore. It's been amazing considering that once I felt completely chained
by these attributes I apply. Given time, I Am certain that I will read these
words and feel the familiar twisting jab causing me to grow and learn even
more.
The question: "Who are you?" or "who am I?" seems a very wise question to
me. I come from a western background, and therefore in my mind it is a
lesson in humility. I knew a Buddhist teacher who would simply call it a
distraction. Either way, the question brings me back towards where I prefer
my attention to be.
What I have found in myself is that it is a matter of surrender. So -
arrogant, rude, enlightened, wise, or however I choose to see something at
this moment, doesn't matter. I continue learn and change and life continues
to be. Things simply "are." The question "who am I" helps me to remember
that these are attributes that I am applying in the first place, and that
"I" am the only thing that I can control. All else I must let go.surrender
to the great divine. I remember my place as a student of the great teacher.
As my yoga instructor once said, "Who told you yoga was supposed to feel
good?" Not that it has to feel bad, mind you, but it is a journey and all
journeys have their rough spots. Just hold true to your meditation and you
will navigate through it soon enough. It isn't a difference of levels; it is
a difference in position. In physics, a difference in position does not
equal distance traveled. You might find yourself here again some day with a
new perspective.
Anyway, nice to meet you all :-)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
98 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Karma Yoga with AYP nearoanoke
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"I" am the only thing that I must control. All else must go. Very
well said Paula, especially I liked the last two paras.
Satish and Nuna, good thoughts.
Definitely there are both bad and good people in this world. Being
good to everybody is easy said than done. But I think that is the
ideal we all should aim for. Someday we will no more differentiate
between ppl anymore (as we do more practices) as we open up from
inside.
At the same time being good to everyone doesnt mean giving up
always. It includes "fighting for" too when required. All depends on
the purpose. As vivekananda rightly says, a yogi should not be
passive. In his words "You will be stronger through playing football
than reading gita".
I think things will become clearer to us as we practise.
Love,
Near
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <paula@w...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone -
>
>
>
> I have not introduced myself yet, but my name is Paula. I remember
some of
> you from various other sites, so hello
>
> To old friends and greetings to new! I just had a Baby girl, Kairi
> Elizabeth, who is now 4 months old, so I don't get to write
terribly often
>
> But do read through all of the posts. Luckily, she happens to be
napping
> right now!
>
>
>
> I completely understand the rising sensitivity to the "actions of
others/
> state of the world" that some experience. When I first began
>
> Taking a conscious responsibility over my spiritual life, certain
> realizations would stab into my solar plexus like a knife and then
slowly
> twist
>
> Over a period of time until I came to a new realization (a healing
I
> suppose). What I have learned is that these realizations change
over time,
>
> And some even come back again in new light. I learn, I change, and
life
> continues to be.
>
>
>
> Good/Bad, right/wrong.it's so perceptional that I don't even think
about it
> anymore. It's been amazing considering that once I felt completely
chained
> by these attributes I apply. Given time, I Am certain that I will
read these
> words and feel the familiar twisting jab causing me to grow and
learn even
> more.
>
> The question: "Who are you?" or "who am I?" seems a very wise
question to
> me. I come from a western background, and therefore in my mind it
is a
> lesson in humility. I knew a Buddhist teacher who would simply
call it a
> distraction. Either way, the question brings me back towards where
I prefer
> my attention to be.
>
>
>
> What I have found in myself is that it is a matter of surrender.
So -
> arrogant, rude, enlightened, wise, or however I choose to see
something at
> this moment, doesn't matter. I continue learn and change and life
continues
> to be. Things simply "are." The question "who am I" helps me to
remember
> that these are attributes that I am applying in the first place,
and that
> "I" am the only thing that I can control. All else I must let
go.surrender
> to the great divine. I remember my place as a student of the great
teacher.
>
>
>
> As my yoga instructor once said, "Who told you yoga was supposed
to feel
> good?" Not that it has to feel bad, mind you, but it is a journey
and all
> journeys have their rough spots. Just hold true to your meditation
and you
> will navigate through it soon enough. It isn't a difference of
levels; it is
> a difference in position. In physics, a difference in position
does not
> equal distance traveled. You might find yourself here again some
day with a
> new perspective.
>
>
>
> Anyway, nice to meet you all :-)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
99 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 5:07pm
Subject: Re: Karma Yoga with AYP nearoanoke
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Nuno,
I think he is just trying to ease up the tension of the long
argument that went between you by "giving up" a bit.
Peace brother,
Near
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Nuno Godinho" <eu@n...> wrote:
> Hi Satish,
>
> Are you being ironic? :)
>
> Please understand that what I wrote below didn't mean to be
arrogant or my
> final opinion. I joined this forum to learn and I believe that
exposing my
> ideas, even if wrong or naif, is the best way to learn.
>
> I didn't understand what you meant.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Satish [mailto:satishc_1999@y...]
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 14:35
> > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> >
> >
> > Hi brother,
> > when u say......"I believe I can judge levels of behaviors
> > even if I CANNOT judge levels of people.".....its an
> > achivment.......keep going......
> >
> >
> >
> > Nuno Godinho <eu@n...> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I do try to avoid being moralist and be aware that all
> > my judgements are relative to my limited reality and can be
> > wrong. Nevertheless if I see someone consciously doing
> > something in order to prejudice someone else I can
> > objectively say that it is wrong. I may still accept the idea
> > that at a karmic level maybe it had to happen. But
> > objectively one can have an opinion on that.
> >
> > Tell me, imagine that you know for sure that someone took
> > money from you.
> > When you ask him he tells you that he didn't take any money
> > from you. He lied. Independently of the consequences of that
> > lie and independently of the context now you know that that
> > person can lie to you. You can still be his friend if you
> > understand his context and that doesn't make him necessarily
> > a bad person. But he lied and that is a bad action.
> >
> > Last year I went to Dharamsala in India and listened to the
> > Dalai Lama teachings. At some point he said something really
> > interesting: one should distinguish the "doer" from the
> > "deed". That means one should judge the actions but never
> > judge the person.
> >
> > So I believe I can judge levels of behaviors even if I CANNOT
> > judge levels of people.
> >
> > Nuno
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Satish [mailto:satishc_1999@y...]
> > > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 14:00
> > > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> > >
> > >
> > > ..who r we to judge the levels?............do we have our own
> > > standards?........and ....if yes.......on what basis?......
> > > .....we are all in the hands of of our
> > creater........which.who is not
> > > known to us yet........we have no option but to follow
his/her/its
> > > desire........and thats the life.......ALAS!
> > >
> > > Nuno Godinho <eu@n...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I also agree that mother nature has all at same level.
> > > Nevertheless if we are talking about behaviors we must be able
to
> > > qualify and quantify. I am not saying that people who act
badly in
> > > their lives deserve less love from others or are forever in a
lower
> > > level. That was not my intention at all.
> > > Nevertheless one can distinguish one person who
> > unconsciously does a
> > > selfish act but regrets it when becomes aware if it from
> > another one
> > > who keeps doing them aware of the harm that it does on
> > others. These
> > > are different levels. I am not judging the people in their
> > nature, I
> > > am judging their behavior patterns.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Satish [mailto:satishc_1999@y...]
> > > > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 13:36
> > > > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ......friends.....sorry to interupt......
> > > > the very 1sr thing i would like to mention
> > > .......that......there are
> > > > .......no 'levels'
> > > > ...these r all "created" by us........."THE MOTHER NATURE
> > > HAS ALL AT
> > > > SAME LEVEL".......as per the performance.....
> > > > .....We....all......have been created to serve a specific
> > > purpose (not
> > > > yet known to us) within a specified time (our life
> > span)......if we
> > > > can not....chances r given.....again and
> > > agian..........WHY?......WHAT
> > > > IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PLAY?.......
> > > > THE SOUL PORPOSE OF OUR BEINGNESS here IS TO FIND WHAT IS
> > > REQUIRED FOR
> > > > EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND HOW TO ACHIVE IT.
> > > >
> > > > Nuno Godinho <eu@n...> wrote:
> > > > Dear Near,
> > > >
> > > > I believe you are confusing two very different levels of
> > goodness.
> > > >
> > > > One is, what I believe to be yours, in which one is
> > > sincerely full of
> > > > good intentions and sometimes eventually doesn't work
> > hard enough.
> > > > This kind of person does try to be good and being aware of
> > > this need
> > > > to act good is a great thing.
> > > >
> > > > The other is that of people who are cynical and couldn't
> > care less
> > > > about being good. This accounts or lots of people who
> > keep talking
> > > > about being good but don't act like that. People who
> > pretend to be
> > > > nice but then don't care about the means to reach their
goals. I
> > > > already met a lot of these people who talk about yoga,
spiritual
> > > > development and being good and seem really convinced
> > about this but
> > > > then move in the opposite direction.
> > > >
> > > > The latter are the people who can misuse the "powers" you
> > > talk about.
> > > > I wouldn't worry with the first ones. So, there isn't much
> > > one can do
> > > > about the cynical people and I can't see how your warning
> > > will reach
> > > > them.
> > > >
> > > > Bye,
> > > > Nuno
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nearoanoke [mailto:nearoanoke@y...]
> > > > > Sent: segunda-feira, 7 de Margo de 2005 5:49
> > > > > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [AYPforum] Karma Yoga with AYP
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The goal of all meditation or spiritual practices or AYP
> > > > should be in
> > > > > doing good and becoming good. Isnt it? It should be.
> > > Otherwise our
> > > > > lives can go onto the dangerous side with these powerful
> > > > practices in
> > > > > our hand. There is every possibility of misusing them
> > if we dont
> > > > > decide within ourselves to be good.
> > > > >
> > > > > AYP can give us powers, can give us control, can give us
> > > > the ability
> > > > > to "be cool". At the same time we should also use it to
> > make our
> > > > > conscience stronger. I do recollect Yogani saying that AYP
> > > > practices
> > > > > will naturally make us more good too but still I think we
> > > > need to put
> > > > > efforts from our own side.
> > > > > Atleast thats some scale on which we can test our
progress.
> > > > > Am I less selfish today compared to yesterday is the
> > > > question we need
> > > > > to ask ourselves everyday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ofcourse whenever i try to be good and unselfish, my
genetical
> > > > > obstructions and my past life karma obstructions will come
> > > > in the way.
> > > > > I wont force myself and do good against these. But I
> > > gently try to
> > > > > push the limits and see if I can be unselfish. Thats how I
test
> > > > > myself. With increasing meditation practices everyday,
> > > > slowly I feel
> > > > > we will become more unselfish and more of divine nature.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please share your opinions on what you think about karma
> > > > yoga and AYP
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
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76 From: "Mercurius Trismegistus" <magisterium_magnum@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 10:43am
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> The goal of all meditation or spiritual practices or AYP should be
> in doing good and becoming good. Isnt it? It should be. Otherwise
> our lives can go onto the dangerous side with these powerful
> practices in our hand. There is every possibility of misusing them
> if we dont decide within ourselves to be good.
MM: karma is karma. seek liberation.
Mercurius Trismegistus
77 From: Satish <satishc_1999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 8:54am
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.......u r very much right......the only thing we should know is........who is "dangerous".......practice or practitioner..........
Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum@sbcglobal.net> wrote:> The goal of all meditation or spiritual practices or AYP should be
> in doing good and becoming good. Isnt it? It should be. Otherwise
> our lives can go onto the dangerous side with these powerful
> practices in our hand. There is every possibility of misusing them
> if we dont decide within ourselves to be good.
MM: karma is karma. seek liberation.
Mercurius Trismegistus
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79 From: Satish <satishc_1999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 9:08am
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......keep it up brother...........some day or other ......u will find ur goal.......
.......best of luck
Ram Narayan Gupta <rngupta31@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Dear Brother !
I 100% endorse yout views. The very purpose of life is peace, happiness,kind & compassionate unselfish, unconditional.
Regards, R N Gupta
nearoanoke <nearoanoke@yahoo.com> wrote:
The goal of all meditation or spiritual practices or AYP should be
in doing good and becoming good. Isnt it? It should be. Otherwise
our lives can go onto the dangerous side with these powerful
practices in our hand. There is every possibility of misusing them
if we dont decide within ourselves to be good.
AYP can give us powers, can give us control, can give us the ability
to "be cool". At the same time we should also use it to make our
conscience stronger. I do recollect Yogani saying that AYP practices
will naturally make us more good too but still I think we need to
put efforts from our own side. Atleast thats some scale on which we
can test our progress. Am I less selfish today compared to yesterday
is the question we need to ask ourselves everyday.
Ofcourse whenever i try to be good and unselfish, my genetical
obstructions and my past life karma obstructions will come in the
way. I wont force myself and do good against these. But I gently try
to push the limits and see if I can be unselfish. Thats how I test
myself. With increasing meditation practices everyday, slowly I feel
we will become more unselfish and more of divine nature.
Please share your opinions on what you think about karma yoga and AYP
Thanks,
Near
For the AYP Lessons and Books, go to: http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices
Yahoo! Groups Links
Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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96 From: "Mercurius Trismegistus" <magisterium_magnum@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 4:56pm
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look WITHIN.
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> .......u r very much right......the only thing we should know
is........who is "dangerous".......practice or practitioner..........
>
> Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum@sbcglobal.net> wrote:> The goal
of all meditation or spiritual practices or AYP should be
> > in doing good and becoming good. Isnt it? It should be. Otherwise
> > our lives can go onto the dangerous side with these powerful
> > practices in our hand. There is every possibility of misusing them
> > if we dont decide within ourselves to be good.
>
>
> MM: karma is karma. seek liberation.
> Mercurius Trismegistus
>
>
>
> For the AYP Lessons and Books, go to:
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices
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