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Anthem

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Posted - Mar 14 2007 :  11:19:29 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Here are some thoughts I have had on the ego recently, in part inspired by this quote from Jim:

quote:
To "kill the ego", to use your term, is to simply let go of that completely ineffectual, more-than-slightly-insane toy steering wheel. There's really no violence involved, and nothing lost, aside from lots of neurotic effort


I used to want to get rid of my ego, I guess that means kill it, that didn't work or maybe it's more accurate to say it worked for a while...

Then I decided to accept the nature of my ego and work with it, look closely at it and become aware of all the errors of it's ways, I really thought this would lead to realization, it definitely did for a while...

Then one day recently I decided to give up on my ego, I realized that it is just too tricky for me, manifesting in countless ways, no doubt many that I am still unaware of. I realize I can never win with my ego, it’s an endless battle. I accept the inevitability of my ego and ironically, I find myself starting to love all of its efforts on my behalf, it definitely thinks it is helping me out, no matter how misdirected...

I was lying in bed one morning, just before getting up, listening to my mind as sometimes happens and I heard my thoughts saying something along the lines of "you should do this or you could do it that way etc." In an instant of profound shock I realized that my thoughts or ego was talking like there were two of us and I realized how insane that was, how of course there is just one, it always has been just one not two, so who exactly are we talking to when we think anyway and who is listening? It is one and the same, so why do we bother?

I am starting to get it, just be!

ps- my ego wrote this!

Jim and His Karma

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Posted - Mar 15 2007 :  01:21:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
As you're becoming aware, the best hope for turning down the buzzing noise that is all your ego is is via greater and greater silence. You can't use ego to ponder ways to kill ego via ego. And AYP is the best method I've found to increase one's silence. Though there are countless other effective ones, though.

And, anyway, it's not something we need to obsess over. I just watch carefully and assume that no matter how holy I feel I'm getting, ego is always ready to assert itself. Good questions to ask: are we getting more at stake or less? How much are we personally identifying with the glory we're experiencing? For one thing, if we start having delusions of grandeur, believing ourselves to be some sort of millenial savior, that would be a dead ringer.

Stillness can either decrease ego or serve as a tool for monstrously increasing it (usually without a trace of awareness that this is what one is doing). So, for God's sake, avoid the temptation of using spiritual tools to increase your potency for mucking around in the samsara, unless you're absolutely sure your desires are far purer than those of the many advanced beings we've heard about whose highly cultivated silence did little to purify their desires. I'd suggest remembering their example very keenly. If anyone's indeed that totally pure, then they might consider using spiritual tools to hypercharge themselves to do what they deem good works. But even if you manage to wield that power without corruption, you're still operating from ego (however one may deceive oneself otherwise). And so long as you operate from ego, it's YOUR will being done, not His. You're doing occult: asserting yourself powerfully in the external world in order to make it hew to your preference, rather than spirituality, which most every tradition defines as the surrender of one's actions to What Is.

Ego is everything that hasn't let go and let God (swap in any equivalent term for God you'd prefer). That's the best barometer.

I've never been very Judeo-Christian. I always thought "temptation" was a lot of claptrap re: whiskey 'n women. But the old Indian yogis loved Christ, and what Christ had to say about temptation was far deeper than your average televangelist ever realized. It's not about right or wrong. It's about self-deception leading you 180 degrees away from the spiritual path (nearly always with the best of intentions...we humans really must learn at some point to stop giving ourselves passes for what we deem good intentions!).


Edited by - Jim and His Karma on Mar 15 2007 03:21:12 AM
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Doc

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Posted - Mar 15 2007 :  11:33:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Doc's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Jim and His Karma:

"As you're becoming aware, the best hope for turning down the buzzing noise that is all your ego is is via greater and greater silence."


Hi Jim!

Your excellent recommendation here has certainly been validated by the experiences of countless generations of sadhakas. Nonetheless, it may look and feel like sort of a 'Catch-22' to many practitioners, especially in the early stages of Sadhana.

Greater and greater inner silence is suggested as the key to "turning down the buzzing noise that is all your ego", but the "buzzing noise of ego" seems to be the primary impediment to reaching the silence! Thus, the goal of silencing the ego, and the means of reaching the goal, via greater and greater silence, may often appear to be mutually cancelling factors of an unsolvable equation.

This apparent impasse represents a spiritual conundrum which has discouraged many practitioners to the point of gradually losing their initial fervor for meditation, and eventually abandoning their Sadhana altogether.

What would you suggest, from your own experience, as a practical way to begin resolving such a situation? This would undoubtedly be quite helpful to many readers. Thanks!

Hari OM!

Doc

Edited by - Doc on Mar 15 2007 7:12:30 PM
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Doc

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Posted - Mar 15 2007 :  7:34:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit Doc's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the view of one writer for your consideration.

Seven Steps for Overcoming Ego’s Hold on You

Here are seven suggestions to help you transcend ingrained ideas of self-importance. All of these are designed to help prevent you from falsely identifying with the self-important ego.

1. Stop being offended. The behavior of others isn’t a reason to be immobilized. That which offends you only weakens you. If you’re looking for occasions to be offended, you’ll find them at every turn. This is your ego at work convincing you that the world shouldn't be the way it is. But you can become an appreciator of life and match up with the universal Spirit of Creation. You can’t reach the power of intention by being offended.

By all means, act to eradicate the horrors of the world, which emanate from massive ego identification, but stay in peace. As A Course in Miracles reminds us: Peace is of God, you who are part of God are not at home except in his peace. Being is of God, you who are part of God are not at home except in his peace. Being offended creates the same destructive energy that offended you in the first place and leads to attack, counterattack, and war.

2. Let go of your need to win. Ego loves to divide us up into winners and losers. The pursuit of winning is a surefire means to avoid conscious contact with intention. Why? Because ultimately, winning is impossible all of the time. Someone out there will be faster, luckier, younger, stronger, and smarter-and back you’ll go to feeling worthless and insignificant.

You’re not your winnings or your victories. You may enjoy competing, and have fun in a world where winning is everything, but you don’t have to be there in your thoughts. There are no losers in a world where we all share the same energy source. All you can say on a given day is that you performed at a certain level in comparison to the levels of others on that day. But today is another day, with other competitors and new circumstances to consider. You’re still the infinite presence in a body that’s another day (or decade) older.

Let go of needing to win by not agreeing that the opposite of winning is losing. That’s ego’s fear. If your body isn’t performing in a winning fashion on this day, it simply doesn’t matter when you aren’t identifying exclusively with your ego. Be the observer, noticing and enjoying it all without needing to win a trophy. Be at peace, and match up with the energy of intention. And ironically, although you’ll hardly notice it, more of those victories will show up in your life as you pursue them less.

3. Let go of your need to be right. Ego is the source of a lot of conflict and dissension because it pushes you in the direction of making other people wrong. When you’re hostile, you’ve disconnected from the power of intention. The creative Spirit is kind, loving, and receptive; and free of anger, resentment, or bitterness. Letting go of your need to be right in your discussions and relationships is like saying to ego, I’m not a slave to you. I want to embrace kindness, and I reject your need to be right. In fact, I’m going to offer this person a chance to feel better by saying that she’s right, and thank her for pointing me in the direction of truth.

When you let go of the need to be right, you’re able to strengthen your connection to the power of intention. But keep in mind that ego is a determined combatant. I’ve seen people end otherwise beautiful relationships by sticking to their need to be right.

I urge you to let go of this ego-driven need to be right by stopping yourself in the middle of an argument and asking yourself, Do I want to be right or be happy? When you choose the happy, loving, spiritual mood, your connection to intention is strengthened. These moments ultimately expand your new connection to the power of intention. The Universal Source will begin to collaborate with you in creating the life you were intended to live.

4. Let go of your need to be superior. True nobility isn’t about being better than someone else. It’s about being better than you used to be. Stay focused on your growth, with a constant awareness that no one on this planet is any better than anyone else. We all emanate from the same creative life force. We all have a mission to realize our intended Essence; all that we need to fulfill our destiny is available to us. None of this is possible when you see yourself as superior to others.

It’s an old saw, but nonetheless true: we are all equal in the eyes of God. Let go of your need to feel superior by seeing the unfolding of God in everyone. Don’t assess others on the basis of their appearance, achievements, possessions, and other indices of ego. When you project feelings of superiority that’s what you get back, leading to resentments and ultimately hostile feelings. These feelings become the vehicle that takes you farther away from intention. Special-ness always makes comparisons. It is established by a lack seen in another, and maintained by searching for, and keeping clear in sight, all lacks it can perceive.

5. Let go of your need to have more. The mantra of ego is more. It’s never satisfied. No matter how much you achieve or acquire, your ego will insist that it isn’t enough. You’ll find yourself in a perpetual state of striving, and eliminate the possibility of ever arriving.

Yet in reality you’ve already arrived, and how you choose to use this present moment of your life is your choice. Ironically, when you stop needing more, more of what you desire seems to arrive in your life. Since you’re detached from the need for it, you find it easier to pass it along to others, because you realize how little you need in order to be satisfied and at peace.

The Universal Source is content with itself, constantly expanding and creating new life, never trying to hold on to its creations for its own selfish means. It creates and lets go. As you let go of ego’s need to have more, you unify with that Source. You create, attract to yourself, and let it go, never demanding that more come your way. As an appreciator of all that shows up, you learn the powerful lesson St.Francis of Assisi taught:”…it is in giving that we receive.” By allowing abundance to flow to and through you, you match up with your Source and guarantee that this energy will continue to flow.

6. Let go of identifying yourself on the basis of your achievements. This may be a difficult concept if you think you are your achievements. God writes all the music, God sings all the songs, God builds all the buildings, God is the source of all your achievements. I can hear your ego loudly protesting. Nevertheless, stay tuned to this idea. All emanates from Source! You and that Source are One! You’re not this body and its accomplishments. You are the observer. Notice it all; and be grateful for the abilities you’ve accumulated. But give all the credit to the Power of Intention, which brought you into existence and which you’re a materialized part of.

The less you need to take credit for your achievements and the more connected you stay to the seven faces of intention, the more you’re free to achieve, and the more will show up for you. It’s when you attach yourself to those achievements and believe that you alone are doing all of those things that you leave the peace and the gratitude of your Source.

7. Let go of your reputation. Your reputation is not located in you. It resides in the minds of others. Therefore, you have no control over it at all. If you speak to 30 people, you will have 30 reputations. Connecting to intention means listening to your heart and conducting yourself based on what your inner voice tells you is your purpose here.

If you’re overly concerned with how you’re going to be perceived by everyone, then you’ve disconnected yourself from intention and allowed the opinions of others to guide you. This is your ego at work. It’s an illusion that stands between you and the power of intention. There’s nothing you can’t do, unless you disconnect from the Power Source and become convinced that your purpose is to prove to others how masterful and superior you are and spend your energy attempting to win a giant reputation among other egos.

Do what you do because your Inner Voice is always connected to and grateful to your Source-so directs you. Stay on purpose, detach from outcome, and take responsibility for what does reside in you: your character. Leave your reputation for others to debate; it has nothing to do with you. Or as a book title says: What You Think of Me Is None of My Business!

Excerpts from Power of Intention - Dr. Wayne W. Dyer


Edited by - Doc on Mar 15 2007 7:41:11 PM
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Doc

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Posted - Mar 23 2007 :  7:28:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Doc's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, Jim:

This quote of yours could have been and would have been the perfect answer to the question I asked you in this thread on March 15th regarding how to turn down "the buzzing noise of ego" in order to reach silence in meditation:

"....if I dive my consciousness down into the depths of my heart, and emit the mantra from there, I get instant deep stillness...". Very cool!

Oh, well, maybe next time, eh? Happy to help!

Hari OM!

Doc
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