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Posted - Nov 28 2018 :  10:05:44 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
It's strange to say, based on my past spiritual enthusiasm and experiences, but I'm feeling a bit lost in materialism these days. I have been doing AYP but only some days. I grew up Christian and still attend church but haven't been feeling very connected to the beliefs lately.

I'm having trouble accepting that the spiritual teachings are real. I mean, I know that meditation and spiritual techniques have a real effect on myself. But I'm having trouble with the ideas behind the practices of AYP and/or the teaching of Christianity. The unprovable ideas are the problem. The ideas that are to be accepted "on faith".

I guess, with AYP, the theory behind it is something that you can directly experience by doing the practices.

But I'm more focused on just a general feeling of the spiritual aspect of life not being very real to me, lately. I know we are people in the world, and have feelings within ourselves, and brains with which we can experience life, and meditation helps us have a better life experience. But what about the teaching about the spiritual realm, of spirits and God? I know in my heart that God exists, but do other spirits exist? what happens after death? It is these unanswerable and unverifiable questions that are bothering me. They weigh on me heavily.

Any ideas about how to approach this? Maybe just more AYP practices?


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Posted - Nov 29 2018 :  08:59:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Continue to hold onto religious beliefs if you may. That helps you be part of the community around you. AYP is your personal practice. Continue to read and reread AYP lessons. When your mind is ready, lessons about self realization (lessons 325 onwards) will begin to resonate with you. AYP forum also has wonderful posts that you can refer to for further study. Eventually, God will transform from form to the formless.
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Posted - Nov 29 2018 :  09:23:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Part of my problem is that my traditional Protestant Christian upbringing just doesn't seem to explain things enough for them to make coherent sense for me, in relation to my other experiences. So that is hard. I'm still part of that tradition, but I have trouble accepting things the way they are conveyed.

I've also been worried about someone I am close to, so I feel shaken by that. In times like this, I want to turn to God and the spiritual side, but I've been confused about that for a while and find it hard to get clarity.

Lesson 325 looks like it might help - thanks.

Last night I also started reading pieces o "The Gnostic Handbook" which talks more about the mystical teachings which may have been prior to and behind the original Christianity. I found it really interesting and my heart responded, so hopefully that will help me.

I think I need to put priority on meditating daily as well, to have more inner silence.

I find that part of the problem for me is that I'm living in a western country and working a STEM job, and much of my life is materialistic in many ways. That said, my family is very faith-oriented, treating material wealth as (mostly) secondary to religious things.

Thanks for the reply, jusmail
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Posted - Nov 29 2018 :  1:06:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome back, Godslave, good to hear from you again.

I was raised Catholic, and always had trouble (even as a youth) fully accepting many of the teachings, and resented in many ways how the Church positioned itself as the middleman between me and God (confession, in particular). When the church abuse scandals came to the fore, it made the task of breaking away effortless. What always mesmerized me were the teachings of Jesus Christ as human, washing the feet of the poor, spreading the word of love and devotion, and ultimately dying for his beliefs. Whether he actually performed miracles, rose from the dead or was the true Son of God never really mattered to me. The inspiration that He was the temple, as are we, and all we seek and strive for can be found inside our hearts. This is why I am a meditator today; in each and every sitting I find connection to the Source. I am the home of the Holy Spirit.

It sounds as if you have a good home life and upbringing, and have a handle on what inspires and what falls short. Faith is driven by light in your being; you cannot be railroaded into having faith, it is either there or it isn't, and either path is fine.
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Posted - Nov 29 2018 :  3:05:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply, dogboy. I resonate/identify with a lot of what you wrote. I feel like I have let my light dim somewhat, and have not been paying enough attention to reading spiritual texts and meditating. So I need to do those things more often. They make me feel more whole and alive and connected.
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