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albechan

Italy
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Posted - Nov 07 2018 :  06:00:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Hi, I'm wondering if there's anybody among you guys who is performing nadi shodhana as a regular breathing pattern during the day.
Obviously it can't be done while talking or eating, but it's perfectly feasible while driving, working (at least for some kinds of work), watching tv, reading and most of the mundane activities that require no particular body movements.
For practical reasons that should be ideally done in kechari as keeping your hand busy closing nostrils is not the most convenient way to live.
I'm very curious to hear somebody else experience if there's anybody out there who experimented with this.
Thank you so much.
Deep love to all.

BlueRaincoat

United Kingdom
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Posted - Nov 08 2018 :  06:12:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hello albechan

Good to hear from you again.

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Originally posted by albechan

Hi, I'm wondering if there's anybody among you guys who is performing nadi shodhana as a regular breathing pattern during the day.


It is unlikely you will find AYPers who practice any pranayama throughout the day. In AYP, the advice is to engage in daily activity between sitting practices. We do not mix the two. Not only that it's unnecessary (as the practices in the AYP book are powerful enough to produce plenty of results when practiced twice a day), but engaging in work and socialising activities in between the sitting sessions is a good grounding measure and an opportunity to integrate the results of yoga practice in daily life.

Not quite the answer you were looking for, but I hope this is helpful.

Enjoy your practice
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albechan

Italy
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Posted - Nov 08 2018 :  08:45:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by BlueRaincoat

hello albechan

Good to hear from you again.

quote:
Originally posted by albechan

Hi, I'm wondering if there's anybody among you guys who is performing nadi shodhana as a regular breathing pattern during the day.


It is unlikely you will find AYPers who practice any pranayama throughout the day. In AYP, the advice is to engage in daily activity between sitting practices. We do not mix the two. Not only that it's unnecessary (as the practices in the AYP book are powerful enough to produce plenty of results when practiced twice a day), but engaging in work and socialising activities in between the sitting sessions is a good grounding measure and an opportunity to integrate the results of yoga practice in daily life.

Not quite the answer you were looking for, but I hope this is helpful.

Enjoy your practice



Hi BlueRaincoat,
Thank you very much for taking the time to reply.
I'm not sure though if what I do can even be defined as pranayama, as there's no control component in the way I breathe. What I do is simply switching the closing of one nostril at a time with my tongue without putting any effort on lenght and/or rhythm.
Honestly I don't think this goes against AYP practices as it doesn't interfere with daily activities if not by bringing more clarity and balance on all kind of interactions.
It simply is a different breathing pattern that can become an automatism farily quickly.
Of course this is only my experience: that's why I was very interested to hear from someone else's ones.
AYP website seems to draw a lot of dedicated spiritual seekers (a lot of whom are widely experienced with many different paths) so I thought it wouldn't be that unlikely to find someone who experimented with this as well.
Said that I do completely agree with the fact that AYP practices are enough to put anybody on the right track. I have to admit though, to be among those who tend to push on the throttle fairly strongly...
May joy be always with you.
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Charliedog

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Posted - Nov 08 2018 :  10:46:25 AM  Show Profile  Visit Charliedog's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Albechan,

quote:
I'm not sure though if what I do can even be defined as pranayama, as there's no control component in the way I breathe. What I do is simply switching the closing of one nostril at a time with my tongue without putting any effort on lenght and/or rhythm.
Honestly I don't think this goes against AYP practices as it doesn't interfere with daily activities if not by bringing more clarity and balance on all kind of interactions.


This practice might give you clarity, because your awareness rests inside 'with the mudra and breath' and outside in activity during the day. However you influence the breath and nervous system with the switching, so it is pranayama. The outcome is not predictable and therefore not advised at AYP. Keep an eye on overload!

From own experience, at a certain moment on the path I became aware of the breath all day,I became aware of this awareness, like I was resting in this awareness. Like you say, it gave me clarity, balance, and grounding. It was not a doing at all, it just happened. At AYP we call it abiding inner silence, or Witness. No need to switch the nostrils, just reside in being aware. I might be wrong but this is what I read in your words.

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albechan

Italy
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Posted - Nov 08 2018 :  11:08:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Charliedog

Hi Albechan,

quote:
I'm not sure though if what I do can even be defined as pranayama, as there's no control component in the way I breathe. What I do is simply switching the closing of one nostril at a time with my tongue without putting any effort on lenght and/or rhythm.
Honestly I don't think this goes against AYP practices as it doesn't interfere with daily activities if not by bringing more clarity and balance on all kind of interactions.


This practice might give you clarity, because your awareness rests inside 'with the mudra and breath' and outside in activity during the day. However you influence the breath and nervous system with the switching, so it is pranayama. The outcome is not predictable and therefore not advised at AYP. Keep an eye on overload!

From own experience, at a certain moment on the path I became aware of the breath all day,I became aware of this awareness, like I was resting in this awareness. Like you say, it gave me clarity, balance, and grounding. It was not a doing at all, it just happened. At AYP we call it abiding inner silence, or Witness. No need to switch the nostrils, just reside in being aware. I might be wrong but this is what I read in your words.





Dear Charliedog,
What you wrote makes a lot of sense: it's true that the switching brings a lot of attention to the breath, thus inside.
There's also another important physical component, though which is related to the nasal cycle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_cycle
Basically the inferior turbinates normally keep swelling one at a time every couple of hours or so. This means that through normal breathing we are usually taking in slightly more air through one of the nostrils and this seems to change every these two hours or so. Some people speculate that this mechanism has to do with brain hemisphere activation.
I noticed that doing nadi shodhana in this way makes the two turbinates even most of the time: this means that the amount of air intake is pretty much the same to both the right and the left part of the brain.
I don't know if there's something behind all this. I just thought it was interesting to dig a bit further.
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Charliedog

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Posted - Nov 08 2018 :  12:18:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Charliedog's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear albechan,

The science of breath was of my interest and I digged too. However now I know also that SBP takes care for the purification of the nadis, and sushumna opens when time is ready. The science of breath is called Swara Yoga. Satyananda Saraswati and Harish Johari amongst others have books on Swara Yoga.

Best wishes
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BlueRaincoat

United Kingdom
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Posted - Nov 08 2018 :  2:12:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Without wishing to distract from the discussion about bringing awareness inwards vs practicing a pranayama outside your sitting sessions, I would like to share this point: How automatic is automatic yoga?

quote:
Originally posted by albechan
It simply is a different breathing pattern that can become an automatism farily quickly.


There is 'effortless' and there is 'automatic' and they are not the same thing. To me 'automatic' means that it's more trouble to stop it than let it happen.
For example, a level of mulabandha is permanently 'on' for me. I also slip into a second or two of shambhavi if it so happens that I don't need to direct my eyes towards an external object during the day. I don't do these things on purpose. Sambhavi even ruins the odd photo - if I'm caught at the wrong moment, I will look like a zombie, with the eyelids half closed and the eyeballs pointing up. Tough luck.

It is possible that you might get into a habit where you tongue blocks the nostrils alternately without you intending to do it. Is that what it is, or did you mean to say that you can do nadi shodhana effortlessly throughout the day?
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albechan

Italy
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Posted - Nov 09 2018 :  02:31:58 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Charliedog

Dear albechan,

The science of breath was of my interest and I digged too.





That's very interesting: I will have a look at the sources you mentioned.
Thanks a lot!
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albechan

Italy
23 Posts

Posted - Nov 09 2018 :  02:38:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by BlueRaincoat


It is possible that you might get into a habit where you tongue blocks the nostrils alternately without you intending to do it. Is that what it is, or did you mean to say that you can do nadi shodhana effortlessly throughout the day?



That's a fair point: I wouldn't say it became an automatic kriya. It's more that after a prolonged reiterated intention to do so, followed by actual practice, my tongue is now accustomed to slip in there without much thought. So I guess that I can do it effortlessly more than automatically as there's still a push from the mind in order to activate it.
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