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Wing_Zero
Austria
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 Posted - Feb 02 2017 : 09:07:37 AM
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Hello friends,
I'm practicing sexual transmutation / semen retention for quite some time now.
After about 3 weeks of abstaining I had an astounding experience. I had a surge of intense sexual energy and moved it up my body, out of the groinal area. Then a feeling of super power was overwhelmeing my mind and I had these electric buzz-like sensations all over my body. I felt very powerful but calm and grounded at the same time.
This was the best feeling in my life so far.
About me: male,
27 years old,
healthy eating habbits,
no drugs,
no alcohol,
weightliftin regularly
I'm into meditation regularly.
I'm not sure where to post this question, so I'll do it here.
Could someone tell what was happening with me?
My first assumption was that my aura was charging up but I really don't know. |
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sunyata
USA
1507 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2017 : 10:50:07 AM
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Hi Wing Zero,
Welcome to the forum. That's Kundalini energy moving.Can you elaborate on your practice?
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Wing_Zero
Austria
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Posted - Feb 02 2017 : 3:24:23 PM
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Well, i'm practicing "normal" meditation daily for a couple of minutes. Lying or sitting and focus on breath.
Sometimes I do Qigong. Not really into Yoga. Qigong works best for me.
I've read that kundalini can be very dangerous for your mental health. So I'm kinda afraid this could harm me.
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BlueRaincoat
United Kingdom
1730 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2017 : 4:56:14 PM
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Hi Wing Zero
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Originally posted by Wing_Zero
I've read that kundalini can be very dangerous for your mental health. So I'm kinda afraid this could harm me.
Kundlini rising in an unprepared system can lead to all sorts of problems. I would say this is healthy fear. You should heed it. Two minutes of breadth focused meditation a day is very insufficient preparation for semen retention. Be careful.
I suggest you read the lessons on this website before engaging in any further tantric practices. Then you can make an informed decision about how to proceed.
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Edited by - BlueRaincoat on Feb 02 2017 4:58:05 PM |
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sunyata
USA
1507 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2017 : 8:14:51 PM
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Hi Wing Zero,
Agree with BlueRaincoat. In AYP, sitting practices comes first. We cultivate inner silence through the practice of Deep Meditation and Ecstatic Bliss with Spinal breathing. Once we are rooted in Stillness and the channels are purified through spinal breathing then the pathway is clear for the energy to rise with tantric practices.
Few minutes of breath meditation will not suffice. She is the powerful creative force- blissful and pleasurable when cultivated with gradual spiritual practices and fierce when forcefully awakened. Consider yourself lucky that you have landed in a yoga forum even though you are not into it.
Lessons starts here- http://www.aypsite.org/10.html
Wishing you the best!
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Edited by - sunyata on Feb 02 2017 8:16:10 PM |
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Dogboy
USA
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Posted - Feb 02 2017 : 9:33:27 PM
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Welcome WZ. The ladies are correct. The idea is to build your "vessal" through inner silence (deep meditation) which opens up your neuro biology so that, over time, prana/kundalini energy can circulate freely. Just like weightlifting, you dont want to tax your body by lifting too much too soon.
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Wing_Zero
Austria
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Posted - Feb 03 2017 : 11:04:16 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by BlueRaincoat
Hi Wing Zero
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Originally posted by Wing_Zero
I've read that kundalini can be very dangerous for your mental health. So I'm kinda afraid this could harm me.
Kundlini rising in an unprepared system can lead to all sorts of problems. I would say this is healthy fear. You should heed it. Two minutes of breadth focused meditation a day is very insufficient preparation for semen retention. Be careful.
I suggest you read the lessons on this website before engaging in any further tantric practices. Then you can make an informed decision about how to proceed.
Take care.
Thanks for the info.
But what about all those guys on Reddit who practise Nofap without any spirituall exercises? They are basically also doing transmutation/semen retention, but no one of them ends up in insanity or in a mental asylum for it. |
Edited by - Wing_Zero on Feb 03 2017 11:10:11 AM |
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Christi
United Kingdom
4371 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2017 : 11:40:43 AM
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Hi Wingzero,
I don't know what Nofab is, but I believe it is an online forum where people engage in sexual abstinence for periods of time? Correct me if I am wrong there.
If that is the case, then what they are practising is celibacy (complete sexual abstinence) which many people around the world practice. Celibacy alone, is really a lifestyle choice and not a spiritual practice, although some people do use it as a way of enhancing spiritual practices. People who simply practice celibacy, are unlikely to experience a spiritual awakening as a direct result of the practice, and so it is not considered dangerous.
Once you start moving sexual energy up your body using your intention alone and expanding it outwards, then you are entering into the realms of tantric sexual practice. This is also the beginnings of kundalini. The electric buzz-like sensations all over your body are a symptom of that.
Others here are giving you good advice, that tantric sexual practices need to form part of a broader spiritual practice, in order to both give a direction to the energy that you are raising, and also to cultivate inner silence, which will give you the stability that you will need to navigate the journey of awakening. Without both direction and stability, it can be a bumpy ride and in some cases, very bumpy.
What path you choose is of course up to you, and I would say go with what you are drawn towards. It could be no path, or Qi Gong, or something else. But if you want to be sure that what you are doing is safe, then it is best to be informed about what is happening and what changes can take place in the body and the mind along the way. The main lessons on this website contain a very detailed description of the process of kundalini awakening, and what you can expect to experience on the journey. Even if you are not into yoga, it could be wise to check up on what may happen and what practices result in a smooth awakening, without too many surprises.
It is not necessary to cultivate a permanent state of ecstatic bliss, before you can begin tantric sexual methods, but it would be good to at least be moving in that direction, with a balanced daily routine of spiritual practices. Otherwise it is all too easy to get the cart in front of the horse.
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Wing_Zero
Austria
6 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2017 : 11:56:47 AM
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Hello Christi,
you are correct. Nofap is about abstaining from porn and masturbation. Its basically what I do, because I want to be the master of my sexual energy instead of being a slave to it. Like I was in the past. ;-)
At the moment I'm living celibate because it fits my life very good. I don't want to be in a relationship just for the sake of sex. I had that previous.
I've heard other people saying that, if you live in celibacy, your kundalini will start growing automatically sooner or later. Don't know if this is true.
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Christi
United Kingdom
4371 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2017 : 12:33:13 PM
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Hi Wing Zero,
Tantric sexual practices can be performed with a partner, or solo, using masturbation. They can also be performed without a partner and without masturbation, entirely using the mind. To be able to do this though, kundalini has to be awakened and we need to have a certain degree of mastery over the inner energy flows. These flows are directed using consciousness. In the beginning this involves raising sexual energy, but it evolves over time as the higher centres awaken and the energy (prana) becomes established increasingly in the higher centres.
But as mentioned, all of this is best done as a part of an integrated and balanced system of spiritual practices.
As for celibacy and kundalini, kundalini awakens under certain conditions. Generally there need to be a number of factors present at the same time. One of these factors is purity. The subtle body needs to have reached a certain level of purity for the flow of prana in the body to begin it's upward ascent. Another factor is the level of energy present, which can often be related to sex. If people are losing sexual energy often, through orgasm with ejaculation, then it is unlikely that they will have enough energy present for kundalini to awaken. If someone is practising celibacy, or using tantric sexual practices, then more energy will be present and an awakening is more likely to happen.
Celibacy will tend to make someone more prone to a kundalini awakening, because of increased prana, but it is only one factor. Celibacy alone will not make someone more pure of heart, which is why on it's own, it does not play a big part in human spiritual awakening. Combined with spiritual practices though, celibacy is certainly a factor, which is why most monks and nuns practice celibacy.
Christi
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Wing_Zero
Austria
6 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2017 : 5:22:38 PM
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Pretty interessting topic.
I've discovered that I benefit a lot from decreased masturbation and ejaculation. Losing my semen deplets me a lot. I can immediately feel the drop of my frequency. The longer I abstain, the better I feel. (physically and mentally)
If kundalini awakens, can it ever ''fall asleep'' again? Can it attract negativity? I don't want to lose my connection with God and contact evil forces etc.
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Edited by - Wing_Zero on Feb 03 2017 7:10:04 PM |
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Christi
United Kingdom
4371 Posts |
Posted - Feb 03 2017 : 7:23:26 PM
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Hi Wing Zero,
Whether kundalini can fall asleep again or not is a bit of a controversial subject. Some believe it can, whilst others believe it cannot. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in between? Maybe you could say that it can go dormant for while, but with one eye still open.
Kundalini does not attract negativity. If anything you could say that it radiates positivity (and ecstasy). What it will do though is make you more sensitive to everything, which includes both negative and positive energies. So you will become more aware of everything that is happening around you and even some things that are distant.
Kundalini is not an energy in itself, but rather a change in the way that prana flows in the body. Kundalini is the transformation that takes place when prana begins to move upwards through the body and to purify the chakras as it does so. It is also every phase of energetic purification that takes place after that. This purification of the chakras and the subtle body caused by the kundalini process, will bring you increasingly closer to the Divine, eventually coming to know that you are That. So no need to worry about losing your connection with God.
In truth, there are no evil forces, only things that appear to be evil from a certain perspective. With spiritual practices and the purification of the subtle body, we increasingly see that nothing is either good or evil, but beyond both. So no need to worry about that either.
Meditation and the cultivation of inner silence, is the key factor in this whole process of transformation. If you get that right, everything else will follow.
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Dogboy
USA
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Posted - Feb 04 2017 : 12:20:57 PM
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In truth, there are no evil forces, only things that appear to be evil from a certain perspective. With spiritual practices and the purification of the subtle body, we increasingly see that nothing is either good or evil, but beyond both. So no need to worry about that either.
Meditation and the cultivation of inner silence, is the key factor in this whole process of transformation. If you get that right, everything else will follow.
Attention and intention are your GPS; place it on negative and you steer negative, and conversely, positivity steers toward "the Light". |
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Wing_Zero
Austria
6 Posts |
Posted - Feb 04 2017 : 2:20:48 PM
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Thanks.
So if I get any benefits from sexual abstinance, this will always be related to kundalini? How about celibate people who are not into eastern religion/sprituality? |
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Christi
United Kingdom
4371 Posts |
Posted - Feb 04 2017 : 2:55:03 PM
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Originally posted by Wing_Zero
Thanks.
So if I get any benefits from sexual abstinance, this will always be related to kundalini?
Hi Wing Zero,
Not necessarily. People can gain many benefits from sexual abstinence, even if kundalini is not involved at all. People can also suffer because of sexual abstinence in the form of repressed emotion, without kundalini being involved at all. So sexual abstinence can be a double edged sword.
Kundalini is a different matter, and involves a change in the direction of the flow of energy in the body, with resulting symptoms. The symptoms that you described in your first post are kundalini symptoms, so going forwards, what you choose to do sexually, will bring about spiritual transformations in your body.
When it comes to kundalini, it does not make any difference whether people are involved in Eastern spiritual practices or not. Kundalini will awaken under certain conditions, regardless of the spiritual orientation of the person who is experiencing it. It is much more likely that someone will awaken if they have a strong spiritual practice, but that practice could come from any spiritual tradition: Eastern, or Western.
If people practice pranayama (breathing practices) they are even more likely to awaken, as these practices are deliberately designed to purify the body and prepare it for awakening.
All 80 of the AYP lessons on Tantric sexual practice are available for free on this website here.
Most of what you are asking about is covered in those lessons.
Christi
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AYPforum
351 Posts |
Posted - Feb 04 2017 : 2:59:56 PM
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kart12345
United Kingdom
36 Posts |
Posted - Feb 05 2017 : 9:17:49 PM
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Wow wing,
First of all AYP is a great forum which gave opportunity to discuss about spiritual practices. You always get good useful suggestions. If you have come this far you should have gone through many struggles. so its not only just your couple of minutes meditation (correct me if i am wrong).. my sexual pleasure goes from base till neck. it took almost 1.5 years to achieve it. There is still a block in my head (third chakra). but from day 1 i started practicing this.. my awareness went up and up.. But its always better to have a partner to love and be loved. choose one whose in the same path.
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