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Herb

Canada
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Posted - Jan 08 2017 :  12:51:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
I think I just made a breakthrough. About 5 minutes in I hit a place of such complete stillness that even thinking the mantra seemed to bring me up from that deep peacefull level of consciousness. Once I realized that, I just stayed in complete stillness, a place of relitively no thoughts, just an all inclusive feeling of quiteness and peace.

Once out, a feeling of peace has stayed with me. But It's not as deep and blissfull as that deep stillness I found in meditation. I'm really looking forward to my next meditation.

Ecdyonurus

Switzerland
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Posted - Jan 08 2017 :  3:59:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Herb, nice to read your excitement while resuming your meditation practice!

Concerning that blissful silent state, I would say that this is just one of the states one experiences during meditation. Although it is a very pleasant state, I don't look at it as the "holy grail" of meditation. Meditation, to me, means embracing all the very different states that I experience during those 15 minutes. Trying to favour/trigger a certain state, implies the exclusion of other states. Concerning that silent state (nirvikalpa), well, I like and enjoy it when it happens in meditation, but I try not to make my mind shut IN ORDER to experience silence. Just my point of view, of course.
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Christi

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Posted - Jan 08 2017 :  5:12:54 PM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Herb,

Sounds like good things are happening.


If you are following the practice of Deep Meditation and you enter a state of stillness and silence, once you realize that you are off the mantra, then come back to the mantra again. This will take you deeper into silence.

Sometimes when we enter silence the mantra will become very refined and subtle just before entering silence. If that is happening and then you enter silence, (no mantra or thoughts), then when you notice that you are off the mantra, come back to the mantra at the same level of faintness and fuzziness that you were at before you entered silence. You may find that you are back with the mantra for a while, before entering silence again, or you may find that just picking up the mantra once or twice, will bring you into silence (samadhi) again.

So Deep Meditation is a proactive way of working with samadhi states.

Christi
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Herb

Canada
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Posted - Jan 08 2017 :  5:51:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Ecdy and Christi It sure is nice to hear from those who have gone through what I am experiencing. Also I am reading about great Swami's and Yogi's as they were on their path to enlightenment. My spiritual journey has sure picked up steam since I have decided to start Meditating again. And this time I'm doing it for spiritual reasons as well as health reasons so I'm learning about so much more than I did before. Your advice is quite subtle so I will have to read your comments again before meditating for the next few times.

I have a book coming called The Yoga of the Bhagavad Gita. I am excited to get and read that great spiritual text.

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Christi

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Posted - Jan 08 2017 :  6:17:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Herb,

The Yoga of the Bhagavad Gita is on the recommended reading list for the AYP Teacher Training Course coming up in April. It is an excellent book by a very high level Yogi. There is also a film out now about his life called "Awake" which is certainly worth watching if you are able to.


Christi
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Herb

Canada
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Posted - Jan 20 2017 :  12:58:42 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
It's been over a week since I experienced that sustained state of perfect stillness. I meditate for 20 minutes twice daily and it is back to the regular thinking the mantra then drifting off it or getting distracted, then going back to thinking the mantra. I just read a supposed quote from the Yoga Sutras that most closely explains what I experienced:

"When all distraction disappears and the mind becomes one-pointed, it enters the state called samadhi."

Can anyone verify that the above is a direct quote and maybe comment on what I may have experienced? It was like within minutes of starting to meditate all distraction completely disappeared and I was 100% wide awake consious, but having no thoughts other than the awareness that I was sitting there meditating. And it lasted for a full 15 minutes or so until I checked the time, saw my 20 minutes were up and gradually came out of meditation.

If that is samadhi then samadhi is totally awesome man! Also I had a deep feeling of calmness and peace for the rest of the evening and a good sleep if I remember right. I'm glad I wrote this down so I can compare it to the next time it happens.

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Charliedog

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Posted - Jan 20 2017 :  04:32:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Herb,

You described this beautiful and I understand you.

For a long time I was looking for words to describe it. One teacher said, sat-chit-ananda, the other called it samadhi (which has many layers) the other one said this is turya. Then one said, it doesn't matter, there is many terminology, your description is beautiful, I believe that was Yogani.

It is beautiful to be one.

quote:
"When all distraction disappears and the mind becomes one-pointed, it enters the state called samadhi."


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Herb

Canada
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Posted - Jan 20 2017 :  6:30:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
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