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boris
Norway
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 Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 8:46:42 PM
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If we compare the two meditations only,as if a man if a man was going to choose between breath or ayp mantra.Leave out spinal breathing and other methods.
the question is,In Ayp DM we can only stay in samadhi or silence for maximum ca 40 minutes a day,but in breath meditation we can stay in silence or samadhi in many many hours.How can Ayp Dm still be a faster
or more powerfull meditation for opening the channels and spiritual progress?
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Shanti
USA
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boris
Norway
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Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 9:25:48 PM
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Thanks for quick answer,but if you are lost in silence or samadhi,there is no repetation of the mantra.There is only silence and it should be the same effect from breath and mantra meditation in this state?
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Originally posted by Shanti
Because AYP DM uses a mantra and that adds to the purification and opening. 
http://www.aypsite.org/188.html
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AumNaturel
Canada
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Posted - Apr 03 2012 : 10:02:03 PM
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| DM is an entire procedure which includes losing the mantra, and picking it up when it is possible to do so. You can't separate it into distinct parts without losing it as a whole. Also, I'm not so sure you can equate being lost in silence with samadhi. Repeating the mantra can be on a background of silence, but that is not the same as losing the mantra, at least from the point of view of the procedure. |
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Shanti
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Posted - Apr 04 2012 : 09:12:51 AM
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I agree with AumNaturel. It is the entire process of picking the mantra, losing it and coming back to it. We can lose the mantra in thoughts or in samadhi, but when we realize we are off the mantra we come back to it. We can come back to breath (when doing breath meditation) when we realize we are lost in samadhi as well, but that is where the purification/opening due to the mantra comes in.
Maybe you are advanced enough that you start meditation and get lost in samadhi and never have to come back to the procedure, in which case, you can go with whatever feels more comfortable to you. But for most of us, when we realize we are off the mantra, the process of coming back to the mantra and touching the mantra at whatever level we may be at, adds an extra component of purification/opening, that is not there with just breath meditation. |
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