en-us Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:51:30 +0200 aypforum99@aypsite.org 60 AYP Support Forums http://www.aypsite.org/forum/ AYP Support Forums http://www.aypsite.org/forum/ http://www.aypsite.org/forum/aum2asmall.jpg AYP Support Forums RSS Feed 71 43 Meditation group, Bristol Southwest (UK) 11jono11@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8372 Member Announcements - Events, Classes & Retreats Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:34:51 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8372
Om Shanti

Love and light

]]> My Story Ananda@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8369&REPLY_ID=72588 Illuminated Poetry, Quotations and Stories Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:34:25 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8369 Quote:
Thanks bro]]> Intensity and frequency in meditation Panthau@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8365 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:15:29 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8365
Im a bit distracted these days, so im not meditating as often as im used to. I find that the more pause is between the sessions, the more intense they are. Is this a sign that its probably too much anyway for me?

Edit: I should probably say, that they are intense in a positive way. I can let more go and im much more relaxed, when im not meditating that often.

Thanks
Pan]]> Refraining from new relationships? Good? bad? Victor@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8370&REPLY_ID=72587 Tantra - Sex and Spiritual Development Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:29:27 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8370 Quote:
I beleive that kirtanman said it nicely. You have to follow your heart and what feels right to you. What I would be more concerned with rather than the mechanics of ejaculation is more if this girl will be someone that you can trust, someone who will enhance and support your direction in life rather than bring new drama or pull in undesired ways. thats the big issue for me. Sometimes a man just needs physical contact. Its natural, so just find your balance. In my opinion absolute celibacy is a level of spiritual maturity that most never reach nor desire. For the few it works and is succesful but I would warn against trying to discipline yoruself too hard too soon. That said, find your own balance of sexual energy and with luck your partner will appreciate this and help you cultivate it.]]> Sufism Rocks! Jo-self@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8361&REPLY_ID=72586 Books, Web Sites, Audio, Video, etc. Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:39:30 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8361 Quote:
Excellent, very ecstatic. I read that the chant can be translated as: "God is. God is. God is Truth."

Hmmmm. It did not dispel my preconceived notions. Yuk yuk. :)

]]> Feelings, nothing more then feelings Jo-self@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8368&REPLY_ID=72585 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:04:00 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8368 Quote:
Sometimes its not all about spiritual stuff. It could be certain skills that were not learned and practiced in one's life, like assertiveness or even basic self-defense.

I remember many years ago when I was having some issues I just used some of the techniques in "When I say no, I feel guilty" and amazingly they worked, to some extent. Similarly, cognitive therapy has been shown to work too.

Look some people are bad and will not be redeemed or changed, at least not by you. Either get away from them or avoid them, change yourself to better handle them, or wallow in suffering. Sure AYP will help, but there is no time to waste while you have a young child, cause what effects you will effect your loved ones.

And if you read of The Work or other things, be careful with the actual organizations that give the seminars (though not required), do some sober eyed appraisal.

As to letting go. That is nonsense. Don't get hung up on it. You let one thing go, another will take its place. The only letting go, is letting yourself go and finding your Self. Before that of course, there is a kind of letting go, it is a profound acceptance and forgiveness. But, that comes from grace. No technique or path for that. Just get strong, do the practice, and have faith. Today or thousands of years from now, you will know.








]]> Do you believe in reincarnation? stevenbhow@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8335&REPLY_ID=72584 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 02 Sep 2010 23:00:25 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8335 Quote:
I'm not sure about reincarnation at least in the Buddhist/Hindu sense of it, but from a energetic/scientific point of view even the atheists would have agree that the Universe continuously recycles everything. Nature wastes nothing. The second law of thermodynamics basically says energy cannot be created or destroyed, meaning that all of the energy that exists now has always existed and always will exist.

E=MC2 basically says that energy and matter are interchangeable, or the same thing.

So if energy is eternal and we are all made of energy than I guess in that sense, yes reincarnation exists, eventually some of the energy we are made has the potential to become part of other life forms]]> Second, Third and Fourth Kriyas. Jo-self@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7202&REPLY_ID=72582 Other Systems and Alternate Approaches Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:37:03 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7202 Quote:
Clear White Light:

You are so right! Just like having special places. Sure some places are more conducive to practice, more sattvic, but really, where is God not?

-- jo-self
]]> Pranayama blockage Jo-self@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8371&REPLY_ID=72583 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:36:27 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8371 Quote:
Here is a lesson on that topic that may be of interest: http://www.aypsite.org/104.html

]]> Has anyone here learned the TM-Sidhi technique ? laulund@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=1695&REPLY_ID=72580 Other Systems and Alternate Approaches Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:25:38 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1695 Quote:
The TM Sidhi program is basically Samyama as tought in th AYP but with different sutras.

Someone has put the sutras on the internet. They can be found here:

http://minet.org/mantras.html]]> My Paintings Yonatan@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8367&REPLY_ID=72579 Books, Web Sites, Audio, Video, etc. Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:47:41 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8367 Quote:
Shweta! That is so joyful to hear. Thank you!!

Love! ]]> When is Kundalini awakened? woosa@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8362&REPLY_ID=72577 Kundalini - Inner Energy Ecstasy Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:22:40 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8362 Quote:
http://www.aypsite.org/261.html]]> Hello! rce@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8359&REPLY_ID=72569 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:41:51 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8359 Quote:
Hi Medea and Welcome!]]> Healing Samyama in group meditation Shanti@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=1337&REPLY_ID=72566 Member Announcements - Events, Classes & Retreats Thu, 02 Sep 2010 12:40:01 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1337 Quote:
Hi Deepthi,
Thanks for your request.
He will be up for healing from the group on Sept 19th.]]> No arms, no legs no problem! No limits... Anthem11@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8366 Books, Web Sites, Audio, Video, etc. Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:15:25 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8366
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE]]> retreats miguel@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8360&REPLY_ID=72559 Building a Daily Practice with Self-Pacing Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:42:54 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8360 Quote:
Thanks shanti and katrine.
I have been doing more meditation than usual since last thursday (when i came back to the world) and there has been no problem.now im doing 20 mtes dm and 5 mtes sb and i dont feel bad.Dont now whats happening but it seems like i can support it for the moment.Strange....just follow the flow]]> Stop running after your desires..because... manigma@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8363&REPLY_ID=72558 Illuminated Poetry, Quotations and Stories Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:30:02 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8363 Quote:
The sea that I look upon outside is a reflection of the sea within me.

What else to desire?

What else to wish for?

Our wishes have been fulfilled even before wishing.

Be still, know!

]]> Krishna Das - Radhe Govinda Live amoux@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8364 Books, Web Sites, Audio, Video, etc. Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:46:07 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8364

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UORM833V6KE]]> depression Shanti@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8355&REPLY_ID=72557 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:35:20 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8355 Quote:
Awesome reply by Amoux.

I agree with everything she said.

Exercise and being active (along with medication if the doctor prescribes it) is very important when in depression. Depression takes us inward, we move into a shell, and from here we do a lot of thinking that is usually not pleasant or positive. Hence diet, exercise, doing things that involve being more active and outwardly-oriented, such as being with friends, or otherwise connecting with people, maybe taking up a new sport or recreational hobby; doing things that lift us up and get us active.

A very important part of getting out of depression is the desire to be done with it. That is what I experienced. There was one day I woke up and said to myself, "I am done, I have to get out of this, I am missing too much of my life being depressed all the time". The excessive thinking and being depressed all the time is like an addiction, and very hard to get out of, but like any other addiction, it's when you decide you are done with it, you will find ways to get out of it.

You writing here about your depression is that first step, the first step toward wanting to get out of this place.

Wish you all the best. ]]> From Anandatandava anandatandava@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=5468&REPLY_ID=72550 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:21:19 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5468 Quote:
Observations of a Beggar


Well after 8 months in a punishment cellblock (must be some mistake here!), I finally fell into complete destitution, It was stressful on the way down into unfamiliar territory, but now I'm so busy hustling for survival all day there's not much time for worry.I always did wonder how indigent inmates got by, living like scruffy pariah dogs around the village dump or friendlier campfires. Well here we are. *scratch* *scratch* Yes, seeing as how things are the way they are, one might as well surrender and laugh. After all, it is funny how the mighty have fallen. Years back I had a zebra rug delivered here, and now I'd probably eat the dang thing as I sit in my rags and hope for a Ramen noodle( the coin of realm at this level) to fall in my alms bowl. And since that doesn't often happen in such an unprosperous and impious realm, I have to run around to work a very thin barter economy and pick through others' leavings.

I've acquired the opportunistic eye and the ravenous, indiscriminate tastes of the hyena ( despite my food allergies), and expect to see spots on my hide soon. Fortunately there is a large contingent of Native Americans in this prison, and those on the Red Road tend to recognize kinship in others who live close to the spirts. So it is that those busloads of elderly white women traveling to Native-owned casinos kindly contribute in a modest way to my upkeep. Dare I say that I'm living off of the "fat of the land"? Only in the most loving way, for it makes the difference between going hungry or not, so they're all beautiful godesses to me. In fact, the stomach does generate emotion, in a process called interoception (look it up!) so a major way to someone's heart is indeed through a tummy-filling meal. Please don't use this alchemy to unfair advantage in the opposite (or same) sex. *laugh*

I am losing weight again under current circumstances, but I've turned this decline to my advantage in my mind, thinking ahead of when they'll have to place me on Ensure supplements, every child's dream of milkshake meals. Yum-o!

Yes, Dr. Pangloss, this does appear to be the best of all possible worlds. However, a sunspot still broods o'er this, my land of Milk & Honey, for with the exception of international snail-mail and its ghastly >2 week turnaround, I presently have no contact with the outside world. This is actually a greater loss to me than that of food or money. The only voices I hear carry vibald humor, talk of crime, complaints, and angry outbursts. It would be so nice to hear a countervailing influence, you know, like an angel to talk in my other ear. I don't care if the voice is male, female, ambiguous, or prerecorded. It doesn't matter what is said as long as it orbits roughly around spiritual matters. I want to hear a spiritual timbre of voice to call me back to my true self, remind me that a sane world exists somewhere, somewhat.

So I do my bi-yearly (?) appeal for someone to install an anonymous private line for free via Google Voice, cheap via Magic Jack, or other VOIP technology. Vonage may have incoming only business line for cheap. I have heard other phone companies have this but have no way of researching it.

Once hooked up, use any name in answering. I don't need to know who or where you are. I only wish to flutter near your warming influence a few moments before disapearing again into the might. Please do not be intimidated by my writing, as I am a very tender-winged moth in speech- only the pen is bold. You might even find me boring, as my sole interests are spirituality and neuroscience. On the other hand, you might find me entertainingly colorful and decide to pin me in your specimen box of more unusual friends. It is all your choice, and under your complete control.

I know I should have put up a nice, tame, rational posting prior to this appeal, just to show there is a responsible adult here, but I'm lonely, operating in a void needing to blow off energy in this box, and, just in case anyone reads this stuff, I don't think that's what you're looking to see. I dunno, if it was me, I might be wanting to see a colorful mosaic of ectasy, spiritual philosophy, and car wreck. I myself am unqualified to say a damn thing, but this pen -oof!- has a mind of it's own. Forgive me?

Anandatandava]]> Agressive entities omarkaya@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7739&REPLY_ID=72549 Gurus, Sages and Higher Beings Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:39:42 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7739 Quote:
reciting mahamrityunjaya, is the best vaccine against all kind of evil ghosts,demons,etc,recite it before going to sleep grants sound sleep and youl wake up happy.watching demons has nothing to do with purification, it may be the oposite.sometimes when we call up divinity or perform purifiying exercise like on yoga and at the sametime we indulge on sexual habits these entities get angry and bother us.its very good to keep mental and physical celibate.]]> Im able to move prana without breath is it ok ? Holy@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8331&REPLY_ID=72548 Support for AYP Pranayama, Mudras and Bandhas Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:22:54 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8331 Quote:
Hi dnice,

if you move the energy/prana in your body without breathing, the routing may be easier and you will go into more suptle levels faster. But if there are still some major blockages and or your nervous system and your bodily system is not purified enough, it can happen that a lot kevala kumbhka happens ( breathing stops out of itself) but the body can't handle the deficiency of oxygen. In other words, if you deepen into the sushumna without breathing, after some weeks to months your body could become too weak and other health problems can arise.

This happened for me many times over the course of years. The safest way for bodily health and astral/mental/causal cleansing is really in breathing together with going up and down. After some weeks and little months it should be easy for you too to perfectly sync breath with feeling, thought and attention.

Mental spinal breathing also does a lot, but if you can master it with breath, it does even more.]]> I want to introduce myself and my story Holy@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8336&REPLY_ID=72547 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:22:30 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8336 Quote:
Hi whitespy,

I'm sure you'll find what you want. All in all it is you. The chaos of mind and thoughts together with the sense perceptions of the body that create the cheat, can be eased down to a state where you can clearly see that you are untouched and free already. DM and smiliar pratices are a great help in this.

When it comes to permanently clearing the chaos, some deeper cleansing with pranayama comes always handy =P

Those pictures with those eyes looking upwards are a good hint and some only appear in time space with only one picture like that to guide those who are ready for the final realization.

So as you see, right from the beginning good things have happend for you :)]]> Samyama for dissolving bad habits HathaTeacher@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8281&REPLY_ID=72542 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:27:12 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8281 Quote:
Hi CWL,
energywise, you might even use deep breathing and a slight moola bandha in everyday situations, whenever you've observed any fidgeting.
The energy hike from AYP practices tends to leak thru any small "hole" imaginable. Pranayama and bandha turn the energy upward instead.
My 5 c. ]]> The Shift Movie(s) manigma@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=8353&REPLY_ID=72541 Books, Web Sites, Audio, Video, etc. Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:26:18 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8353 Quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Anthem11
The other is about the apparent elevation of consciousness which is happening around the world in response to global crisis, I believe it is still in the making and a trailer can be found here:

http://www.theshiftmovie.com/

It somehow reminded me of this dialogue by Angel BARTLEBY from movie Dogma:

Humans were given paradise; they threw it away. They were given this planet; they destroyed it. They were favored best among all His endeavors; and some of them don't even believe He exists. Their ego-mania corroded Hell and made it dark and crimson.

In the beginning, it was just us and Him. Angels and God. And then He created the humans. And He gave them more than He ever gave us. Our's was designed to be a life of servitude and worship - adoration. But He gave the humans more - He gave them a choice. They can choose to ignore God, choose to acknowledge Him. All this time we've been down here, everyday I felt the absence of the Divine presence. And it pained me... as I'm sure it must have pained you sometimes, even though you'd gloss over it with jokes. But we feel his absence, and why? Because of the way He made us -as servants. Had we been given free will, we could ignore the pain... like them.

- Angel BARTLEBY (Dogma)

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