en-us Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:01:20 +0200 aypforum99@aypsite.org 60 AYP Support Forums http://www.aypsite.org/forum/ AYP Support Forums http://www.aypsite.org/forum/ http://www.aypsite.org/forum/aum2asmall.jpg AYP Support Forums RSS Feed 71 43 prayer thoughts! nandhi@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7417 Illuminated Poetry, Quotations and Stories Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:08:03 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7417

prayers-

may our mind forever be one with joy each moment. may source be celebrated each breath. may our breathless one of being bless, awakening, as overflowing joys of our inner lamp.


may our mind know guru's grace as gratitude. the guru is the inner guru awakener as inner guru becoming the mind. the guru then is mind of wisdom and awareness- always void in humility to hold the vastness of wisdom.

all living rejoice in our blessed breath of sharing alight peace as christ of now. all messengers becoming the messenger. awake to the now.

perpetual joy our guide of freedom to be the sacred intent of all sages celebrating and manifesting the magic of now as blessings of our reality.




SO BE.

ancient embrace!]]> The Crow emc@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7407&REPLY_ID=65968 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:10:14 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7407 Quote:
quote:
Originally posted by manigma


Or will I be shifting in and out like this all my life? I am really tired of shifting in and out.

Why do I have to come out and enter the mind again? I hate going back... its like going back to sleep and dreaming. Not just dreaming but actually becoming part of that stupid dream.


Totally recognized here! Thanks for being so frank and honest.

I was reminded in a recent post in forum of one of Yogani's lessons on Transforming Negative Emotional Energy:

http://www.aypsite.org/340.html

Particularly these words stuck with me:

quote:
...we complain to the divine about our slow progress toward enlightenment.

"Oh Lord, my journey to realization of Thee is going so slowly!"

Yes, complaining with heart-felt emotion to God (however we may conceive Him/Her/It) can be very productive, as long as we are willing to act to resolve what it is we are complaining about.


I have started to do that, and the effect is remarkable. Try it!!! ]]> resting and moving from stillness JDH@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7414&REPLY_ID=65967 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:58:17 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7414 Quote:
We end our practices with samyama, releasing subtle thoughts into stillness. At least when I started samyama, I had the observation that the sutras were being "digested" by the stillness, or the other way around. There was a mixis. Stillness and meaning counteract each other and samyama is the clash. But doesn't samyama also encompass any stillness we have out in daily life, any and all stillness in action? Then practicing on the sutras seems like doing weight lifting with a stick instead of a barbell with weights on it. No doubt that starting out small is appropriate. But I'm wondering if coming out of samyama into daily activity is one of the best opportunities to practice moving stillness in the storm of energy that is our daily life. If we have reached stillness in meditation, and stillness in action is our goal, why not go to stillness and literally start moving.]]> Any AYPers in SoCal/LongBeach? Jivaakabhasana_Yogi@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7416 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:57:56 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7416
Just wondering if there are any practicing AYP in the Los Angeles/Long Beach area?

Regards,
~Jivaakabhasana_Yogi]]> Is practicing 2 different Mantra meditations good? gentlep@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4786&REPLY_ID=65965 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:21:59 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4786 Quote:
I am sure coleslaaw was talking about attracting the tings of desire, not the desire itself. There has been a lot of talk about "kleem" and that chanting it would manifest things, relationships etc. In my experience, it doesn't seem to work. Anyone has different experience or any thoughts on this?]]> You are the Self Balance@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7415 Illuminated Poetry, Quotations and Stories Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:34:56 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7415 Always remember deep in your heart that all is well and everything is unfolding as it should. There are no mistakes anywhere, at any time. What appears to be wrong is simply your own false imagination. That's all. You are the Self, that perfect immutable Self. Nothing else exists. Nothing else ever existed. Nothing else will ever exist. There is only one Self and you are That. Rejoice!

-- Robert Adams]]> More books for non duality ? Tam Phap@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7294&REPLY_ID=65961 Jnana Yoga/Self-Inquiry - Advaita (Non-Duality) Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:00:38 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7294 Quote:
Hi Karl,
Glad Adya's book is of help... I find he has a real knack for using words that can help ease us towards realization of "the unexplainable". I find that Mooji is also very good in this regard. As Kirtanman mentioned in relating one of Adya's statements - "If you hit the right book at the right time, it can spark a recognition." This has been the case for me - actually one was a statement made by Ajahn Sumedho - "All thoughts are garbage" and the other by "Sailor" Bob Adamson in just the title of one of his books - "Whats Wrong With Right Now - Unless You Think About It".
Back to books - I think the one that really has really clarified things greatly for me is Robert Adams' book - Silence of the Heart.
Best wishes in your journey!]]> Samyama Healing Recipients: Marcelo, Ananda AYPforum@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1565 Member Announcements - Events, Classes & Retreats Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:20:33 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1565 Quote:
]]> mantra's leading vs dharana->dhyana Christi@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7413&REPLY_ID=65960 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:10:15 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7413 Quote:
Hi kaserdar,

What do you mean by mantra leading?

And what do you mean by dharana/ dhyana? (I'm familiar with the sanskrit, just wondering what you are asking)

Christi]]> feeling energy during common cold kaserdar@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7412 Kundalini - Inner Energy Ecstasy Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:03:35 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7412
I'm currently having a common cold which is not so heavy and symptoms are light. Interesting thing is that i feel more energetic than normal, there is some kind of energy vibrating in my body and somehow i feel more love and more emotional:)
Any explanation for this? Do you experience the same? Happened to me three times in a row last two years.

Thank you]]> Khecari Vidya PhD Thesis by James Mallinson yogani@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7401&REPLY_ID=65958 Books, Web Sites, Audio, Video, etc. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:46:11 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7401 Quote:
Hi Alwayson:

Upon inquiry, Jim Mallinson ("flying fakir" in the forums) replied with this:
--------------------------

Thanks for alerting me to this. I had in fact come across the thesis on scribd a while ago. I'm happy for people to download it, but I'd like to alert them to the fact that there are significant improvements in the published book - hundreds of corrections/changes, improvements to the typesetting, Sanskrit in Devanagari, and, perhaps most usefully, an index. At £85 or whatever it was for sale for, I didn't expect anyone other than libraries to buy it, but I've just discovered that Routledge are about to release a paperback edition for £22.50. Indica books in Varanasi are also about to publish an Indian paperback edition, which should retail for about 500 Rs. Khecari-mudra-practising insomniacs might find it easier to take a book to bed with them to help them sleep rather than a pdf!

All the best,

Jim

]]> Taming a wild Horse SeySorciere@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7398&REPLY_ID=65956 Support for AYP Pranayama, Mudras and Bandhas Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:32:19 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7398 Quote:
Thank you Manigma - that is beautiful.

Christi - you are right! I came across it later in the asanas where it is listed as a posture but in the linked page, it was more than that. Like Yogani says , it can mean a whole series of practices in other systems(?)

Thanks again
]]> What do You See? SeySorciere@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7410 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:22:31 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7410
Yogani talks of seeing the end of the spinal nerve (the star) and introvertion of the senses. I'm not altogether sure what the latter involves. I am looking for "guide-lines" to understand if my third eye is opened or not. I've realised I may not know the symptons and looking for "the star"

]]> Out of Body Experience manigma@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7395&REPLY_ID=65951 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:42:50 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7395 Quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Tibetan_Ice
When I would get trapped in power lines I would just freak out and would snap back into my body.

Yes, freak out. That makes sense. Whenever I have an unpleasant dream and I realise that I am dreaming, I struggle to get out from it. Similar to freaking out. And snap! out of the dream, back on the bed.

I don't mind anyone spying on me. In fact I know that I am being spied most of the time. I am used to it.

I have had interactions with these people in the past... many of them were foreigners. Its like hacking into one of the millions of online connected computers around the world.

Its fun but you soon realise this thing can't take you much far spiritually. Its a waste of precious time and energy.

I don't know at what time you got the flash about the Bicycle at my place. I do have several round handled ones outside my work place. ]]> Automatic Yoga / Asanas manigma@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7409 Asanas - Postures and Physical Culture Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:12:13 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7409
A lot of you report experiencing automatic/spontaneous asanas during meditation.

Its been over 3 years I am doing meditation and I have done a lot of asanas automatically. These asanas occur in a state when I am beyond mind/ego. No me, only awareness and a great energy working on me.

If anyone has read the novel '2001:A Space Odyssey'. One can relate this phenomenon with the cube teaching the apes.

Here is a list of asanas that happened automatically to me so far:

Dwi Pada (My first asana: did this with my Dad's help. Legs tied behind my neck, folded hands/namaskar in front of the forehead/third eye.)
Bakasana
Pincha Mayurasana
Tittibhasana/Bhujapidasana
Purvottanasana
Adho Mukha Vrksasana
Halasana
Salamba Sarvangasana
Salamba Sirsasana
Ustrasana
Bitilasana
Urdhva Mukha Svanasana
Dhanurasana
Ananda Balasana
Karna
Setu
Baddha Konasana
Paripurna Navasana
Dwi Pada Dandasana / Viparita Dandasana
Ardha Matsyendrasana
Virasana
Simhasana
Vrschikasana (Did this today for the first time.)

Maybe few other also that I have forgotten. Not to mention several automatic hand mudras, bandhas, breath control/alterations etc.

My reason for posting this topic is just to let those people know who have an experience with automatic yoga.... Its grace. You are blessed.

You are growing/evolving! The seed is becoming the tree. The divine has heard your prayers. Your tears have not gone waste. Your bhakti is flowering. You are pregnant with you.

Thanks
Mani (of the mind/ego)

PS: This link will also be helpful: http://www.messagefrommasters.com/P...ahamudra.htm]]> blocking the thoughts meditation manigma@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7371&REPLY_ID=65950 Other Systems and Alternate Approaches Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:11:05 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7371 Quote:
quote:
Originally posted by boris

quote:
Originally posted by manigma

quote:
Originally posted by boris

but of all the methods I have tried,I think bolcking the thoughts with much concentration is the meditation that gives the most powerfull results in shortest time.

Have you observed your breathing alters/slows down immediately when you do this?


yes,breathing slows down.But it is important to not thightening the head and the mind when you concentrate on blocking the thoughts.I find that thightening of the mind when you concentrate will not help,but the opposite.
To learn to block the thoughts with a relaxed mind is a key factor to succeed with this method I belive.

You see? The slower the breathing... lesser the thoughts.

You can either concetrate on stoping the thoughts or slow down your breathing. Its the same thing.

Breathing has to be slowed down... very slow. (Vipassana)

Thoughts are directly realted with your breathing. When the breathing slows down, you relax.

Relaxed body/mind = Lesser thoughts.]]> Energization Exercises Kirtanman@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7402&REPLY_ID=65945 Other Systems and Alternate Approaches Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:38:54 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7402 Quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Kirtanman

[quote]Originally posted by garlic

Kirtanman,
I know about that, but as you see there are 39 techniques of energization exercises. I wish to know the rest. I cannot buy those cds and booklets as because I am not 18 years of age. Nor do I have the money for that.


Hi Garlic,

My apologies; I didn't realize they only showed two or three of the exercises.
Just FYI, I never found them to be that valuable. I used to live near the Ananda Sangha in California, and took a couple of "live" energization exercise classes. I had the booklet of all the exercises, and practiced it daily for a while, and never quite "got" why they (the exercises) were emphasized so much.

My guess is: it's probably much like Tai Chi, or other disciplines that make use of internal energy: if you don't have awareness of internal energy, the given practice won't feel like much, to you.

I do a bit of Tai Chi, and it wasn't until after I became familiar with internal energy via AYP, that I really felt the flowing of energy when practicing Tai Chi.

All "just FYI"; I hope it's helpful.

Wholeheartedly,

Kirtanman


]]> Pets and Practices Victor@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7272&REPLY_ID=65939 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:00:01 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7272 Quote:
Cats can be so loving and intuitive or can be a pain as well. I was doing my pranayama today when my cat decided to step over my litle meditation table. I tried to gently brush him away and he jumped all over the table knocking things over! Took me awhile to get settled in my practice again. Needless to say he was tossed out the door before I sat for mantra meditation. Its kind of like having a kid that you love dearly but pisses you off sometimes and will never grow up.]]> How do you remind yourself of the greater aim? cosmic@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7408&REPLY_ID=65938 Bhakti and Karma Yoga Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:50:56 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7408 Quote:
Hi YIL

quote:
Originally posted by YogaIsLife

Does it halp to do some kind of routine (i.e. praying, kneeling with devotion, etc.) to reminds us of this?


For me, praying does. But in my case it's not a "routine"... it's very informal. I'm not the devotional type so I just say something brief to God in my own words. And express some gratitude for life. Nothing formal, it just comes from the heart.

But honestly, meditation itself has become my reminder. Like Parallax, I also find that yamas/niyamas happen more and more naturally, through meditation.

Love
cosmic]]> when meditating... Christine@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=7405&REPLY_ID=65920 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:28:30 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7405 Quote:
thanks Ananda.. this is very helpful... as i do not want to get caught up in the scenery !

and overload .. i will cut back on time.

i enjoy all the information and guidance on the lessons.. they never taught us this in christianity!]]> From Roy - Anandatandava Roxy@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=5468&REPLY_ID=65919 Satsang Cafe - General Questions on AYP Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:40:07 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5468 Quote:
AYP and the Endocrine System

Just a brief but important addendum to my cranial-nerve posting:

Ramping up the PNS causes a love response in the endocrine system. Fast acting endorphins (natural opioids) are the principal pleasure chemical, but oxytocin (the love and nurturing neurotransmitter) is a big, slow-acting molecule that strengthens and lengthens endorphin’s effect by locking habituation. In other words, the pleasure stays fresh, as opposed to what happens with drugs and alcohol. Oxytocin gets released in huge volumes at the peak of love-making and, in my view, the higher reaches of samadhi--like kicking the afterburners and leaving all dualism in the dust.

Dopamine, classically considered the pleasure chemical, is really more like a pleasure accountant, offering its critical appraisal of whether the pleasure received was up to expectations. Management of its drama-queen (or king) effects deserves a separate posting, because it causes most of the broad swings in mood that can come with an improperly paced practice. (Thus Yogani’s initial emphasis on meditation.) The critical elements, however, are to not compare your peak experiences against each other, or anyone else’s. Relax, be patient, be consistent in your practice, and be grateful for what you do receive.

Experts on the endocrinology of love include:

Dr. C.S. Carter, I believe with Dr. Porges at the U of Illinois/Chicago
Dr. K Uvnas-Moberg]]> appendix of the book samyama add Sutras AYAMER@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7403 Support for AYP Deep Meditation and Samyama Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:21:37 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7403

thank you ]]> AYP and sickness Ananda@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=6830&REPLY_ID=65914 Healthcare - Holistic and Modern Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:05:17 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6830 Quote:
hello Christine, it's true that it makes us much more immune but still it's best if we take the necessary precautions...

namaste]]> Menopause and kundalini gratitude@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=4244&REPLY_ID=65908 Tantra - Sex and Spiritual Development Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:33:08 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4244 Quote:
I had a kundalini experience that in my opinion resulted in hormonal problems and menstrual problems. Prana and hormones are closely related. Any one have any input on this?]]> today when asked to pray for a couple of people... Christine@aypsite.org http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7406 Healthcare - Holistic and Modern Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:32:05 +0200 http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7406
yes i know we are all interconnected.. but how does this work? does anyone know here? it is not like i was in some trance trying to feel anything i wasn't trying to 'do' anything .. i was watching TV, eating a popicle and praying off an on.. the knowing was immediate and registered within my body, (my heart).. this has been going on for quite some time, but never thought about asking anyone.. honestly, before this forum i didnt have anyone to ask! i tried to talk about this once to a priest and he thought i was nuts, so for the most part have considered it best to be quiet.

how does this interconnectedness work? and how come i am not feelin all the babies being born.. or all the people dying? interconendtedness is not selective is it?




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