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cff	Posted - Apr 11 2012 : 01:36:36 AM I just woke up from a dream where I was to be anally penetrated by an ascended master, he was a reptilian Yogi, very ancient, very sacred being. One time, I remember my guides were telling me to finger my anus. I'm straight and this was a no-no. I said forget it, now it's gotten to a whole different level. Being anally penetrated in my dreams. I don't have any sexual desires for being anally penetrated, neither does it excite me. I find it more and more that I am losing my libido with girls and I am becoming more and more asexual. Yet it has become that more and more the idea of being penetrated anally has come about. Likewise, at times, my kundalini begins ascending and it blocks at bramha granthi. I know that in ancient mystery schools tantra was practiced and at times gurus would anally penetrated their disciples in order to awaken their kundalini, hence why the disciples are always seen as the women of the guru. I know this is a very taboo subject. But there seems to be no other way around this. I have been told by some people (Adronis, google it) who have accessed my akashic records with my permission that my guides are attempting to balance me out, and I take it that they are not noobs on the matter. So, what happens after I am boned in the ass in my sleep? Will that awaken my kundalini for life or do I have to begin practicing anal sex on myself. Hasn't anyone in here reached full kundalini awakening without being analized? Or is this method being chosen for me because I have built up resistance in me? What do you know on the subject? Thanks Cff
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yogishankar	Posted - Jun 23 2012 : 3:51:52 PM I used to hear from my friends that some famous Yogi (Was it Osho Rajneesh?) used to finger the anal or vagina side for awakening and activating Mooladhara chakra.
maheswari	Posted - May 27 2012 : 11:13:43 AM there are 2 asanas one is called the snake and the other cobra see how much yogis are cool and avant-garde?
Etherfish	Posted - May 27 2012 : 10:38:56 AM There are a lot of stories about serpent people and serpent gods, and people being abducted and anal probes used. Much of it leads to David Icke, who maintains they are evil. Some say serpent people lived on earth long before us. I like what some people say; that some of them are good and some evil, the same as people. I suspect that the information we get about serpent people and serpent gods is negatively skewed by a western religious bias. In Christianity, the serpent tempted Adam and Eve to lose their innocence by eating of the tree of knowledge, which is somehow evil. Satan is the "prince of the air" and air is everywhere on earth, and so is satan, who rules the earth. In meso-american mythology, Quetzalcoatl is the God of learning and the wind God (and other things). Hmmm - sounds quite similar to the tree of knowledge and prince of the air. . . Sometimes the tree of knowledge represents the chakras, and kundalini the serpent. It looks to me like a human being at some point purposely decided to make snakes evil, and thereby separate their beliefs from many ancients beliefs worldwide that see snakes as good. This decision would lead to only one religion being "right", and others being "wrong". It looks like it may have been against the whole idea of the kundalini rising up the chakras. The meso-americans believed that we are here to nourish the gods, and so regular sacrifices were necessary. But the western idea is that only one sacrifice is enough, because of the divine importance of that one. It almost looks like the one sacrifice is an ideal stepping stone, to stop people from making many sacrifices. That makes me wonder if making snakes evil was concocted in a plan to "save" these people from what was seen as barbaric practices.
AumNaturel	Posted - May 27 2012 : 10:01:13 AM quote: Originally posted by emc Aches in the testicles can disappear quickly by stimulating anus It would be interesting if anyone uncovered something to follow up on that. It is indeed a persistent problem over here, and although stable for now, I would much rather have it subside than get worse. I can see such methods go into micro-managing, though one in a relationship cannot simply stop tantric practices and abstain until the sitting practices clear out whatever obstructions are the cause of this. Tantra from my experience adds so much in a relationship, daily life, and spiritual practice. It would be great to not have to always cut back in fear that they could be contributing at all to such a problem. If such a simple method could provide such relief, could shifting mulabandha to include more of the anal sphincter be effective for regular sitting practice? I won't expand on the part about a 'close friend' as it would go beside the point. Though I too hope the taboo about one's own body is on its way out, along with the importance placed on the thoughts of others about something that is really your own in your own privacy.
emc	Posted - May 27 2012 : 04:46:51 AM It's a quite common method in tantric healing and dearmouring practices to just hold a finger on the anus or softly stimulate it. It's a splendid way to diverse the energies from the lower chakras to prevent aches and pains in the genitals, especially for men if they practice non-ejaculation and have much sexual energy stored there. Aches in the testicles can disappear quickly by stimulating anus and have the energy release upwards instead of outwards. It's fine to do it by oneself. If you have a partner or close friend who could hold a finger there, and the other hand above the heart, and just be still with it for 15 minutes... you may find amazing stuff bubbling up, release and open the system even more for bliss and ecstacy. It's also possible to intuitively let the finger go inside and press on different points inside the anus. For women that can also be done, as well as pressing points inside the vagina. It doesn't have to be so much drama around it. The taboo thing is on its way out, I hope. The main thing is to take it really slow and let the energy release in its own manner. The second chakra and the genitals store so much of old stuff that has to be cleansed. Wise to self-pace, though!
Victor	Posted - May 27 2012 : 04:16:10 AM dreams are scenery too. Enjoy them but don't obsess on them
avatar186	Posted - May 27 2012 : 12:28:35 AM Tell the entity to go away. Be a shakta. worshiper of power. Giving something the title of guru is dangerous. This kind of experience is an old one..and it is happening in your dreams.. Go with what you feel is right. if you dont feel its right, dont do it. I suggest extreme analytical attitude.
maheswari	Posted - May 25 2012 : 05:53:23 AM S C E N E R Y.... many gurus use it to entangle students...weird experiences...memories from previous lives....all of these are scenery , useless mental creations, all of it is UNREAL... if it is not simple dont buy it...and Truth is simple permanent and IMPERSONAL dont believe anything...enquire about everything... focus on the here and now...and on your daily practices remembering that TGIY
Victor	Posted - May 25 2012 : 05:26:21 AM I have to agree with Gunny. While I can't judge anothers experience it seems to me that these preoccupations with Gurus and deities from books, stories, movies etc seem to be for the most part in the realm of romantic fantasy and imagination. Especially if it is not from the cultural framework (religious operating system) that one was raised with. I would treat it as scenery and just focus on the daily practice.
Gunny	Posted - May 24 2012 : 11:14:48 PM I generally feel that when a westerner (I'm assuming you're a westerner) gets quite caught up with visions of guru's and Indian deities, it's probably a manifestation of the ego, and pribably is blocking progress. I say westerners only because I have no experience of what it would be like to have these myths and symbols as a part of my cultural upbringing. My advise, for whatever it's worth, would be to read as little into this as possible and let it run its course.
cff	Posted - May 12 2012 : 03:31:34 AM I have noticed that setting the intention helps, but then again, i dont have any particular desire for any goal atm. You are also perfectly right that it feels like a drill only because i offer resistance. Ill keep on posting as this unfolds.
Radharani	Posted - May 12 2012 : 03:04:59 AM quote: Originally posted by cff It is my personal belief that if I let that force go up my spine, it will destroy the 3 granthis and give me control of kundalini. I have the feeling deep inside that it was Babaji who told my Guru to do this. Also noteworthy this happened coincidentally the night of 10 of may which is the birthday of my ishtadeva who is Yogiraj Siddhanath Gurunath. I agree that if this happens the blockage will most likely be removed. As a psychologist I feel that these dreams are symbolic of the free movement of kundalini released by your trust in your Guru. Perhaps it only feels like an overwhelming drilling force because of resistance, but if you were willing it would be lovely. I wouldn't worry about "straight" versus "gay" or whatever. This is 2012 and anyway it goes way beyond all that. Plus we're talking about your guru here, not some stranger. A prayer or intention prior to going to sleep might help. Even though these are not lucid dreams you could still set the intention ahead of time and hope for the best.
cff	Posted - May 11 2012 : 7:52:06 PM It is my personal belief that if I let that force go up my spine, it will destroy the 3 granthis and give me control of kundalini. I have the feeling deep inside that it was Babaji who told my Guru to do this. Also noteworthy this happened coincidentally the night of 10 of may which is the birthday of my ishtadeva who is Yogiraj Siddhanath Gurunath.
cff	Posted - May 11 2012 : 09:44:08 AM To be honest Radharani, I would like to go for it, but the block is deeper than my conscious mind. Also, it's not a gentle force that's trying to course through my body, it's not a caress, it is a drill of vibrational force of bliss. Imagine having a drill go up your ass, but blissful, to the extent I was happy and I was actually laughing during the whole event. It is extremely powerful and blissful, the extreme power makes it even more difficult to relax.
Radharani	Posted - May 11 2012 : 04:01:27 AM cff, if I was you I would go for it next time.
cff	Posted - May 10 2012 : 09:06:33 AM After test after test and more tests.� My memory who is portrayed as a ball with a core. It is my soul memory. It is a transparent ball with an orange core. I see it and I see A picture of my guru Yogiraj. Om begins to sound everywhere. I salute my soul memory with my palm facing up then I begin to fly towards my Guru (a picture of him), i am veery happy to be able to have an experience with him. In the picture he is naked smiling sitting in siddhasana . and with a symbol of a lotus flower sahasrara chakra at the level of Where his genitals are. His genitals are covered by sahasrara chakra. �I suddenly begin to feel an extremely strong vibrating force at the level of my anus which is held closed and doesnt open. The force or vibration is very pleasurable and blissful but my anus wouldnt relax and let the current go up my spine. The vibrating force goes up in intensity trying to pierce my forceful sphincter. �Thats what it means to resist your master and not submit and enjoy his bliss permeating your entire bio-system. So it was. An incomplete experience due to personal resistance, but very good experience nonetheless. It is possible that the ancient yogi lizardman was yogiraj. Because i have already seen him in a dream where he was a reptilian humanoid and also as a leprechaun. I have also seen him and many other great yogis get murdered in a past life of yogiraj, at the time i was a four armed god and was seeing the process of their meditation and rituals from another dimension. When they got attacked and killed i got extremely furious and began to break stuff up where i was.
B1-66ER	Posted - Apr 25 2012 : 8:49:50 PM This has nothing to do with sexual attitudes, or even sex at all, but self maintenance, and the uinhibited flow of unconscious energy throughout the body.
axelschlotzhauer	Posted - Apr 25 2012 : 4:29:54 PM quote: Originally posted by B1-66ER cff anal sex is extremely bad for you energetically creating a blockage in the release of shakti down the spine (every in-breath absorbs every out-breath releases). Do not practice it, you are being subverted by said reptilian Yogi who is in fact just another aspect of your own consciousness. The anal region has in many systems an important role beyond the sexual attitude someone has. You may get by it even a sexual arousal. The poet Goethe saw in his Roman elegies the advantage of a young woman compared to a young man having both, yoni and anal intercourse. Well, how he put the rhythm of new verses on the sleeping lover�s spine leaves the question of the sex open. The research on reptil gods except a three part series did not really succeed except the egyptian elderly god Taueret perhaps really lacking the testicles. More important seems is long tail hanging from the back.Like the chinese exercise of the swimming dragon by moving the whole spine may be an inner meaning.Similar dakka and female dakini movements hopping also on a penis are clearly sexual as I also astrally got like the tantrical movements of Chan Mi Gong as the only style with open perineum moves upwards and downwards each disc of the spine. Otherwise the testicle and ovarian breathing Mantak Chia leads to the crown normally in an orgasmic upward draw with squeezing of the anus. Te muscular ring of the anus can be used for spreading the energies to different parts and channels of the body and brain. The free course on youtube on healing love intermingles also pies of cooling sexual energy in Kan & Li with an energy transforming mantra of Frantzis seen as refinement of jing sexual energy. These are practices beyond a simple intercourse, which can have them also as energywork without penis and clitoris. Axel
cff	Posted - Apr 25 2012 : 10:21:55 AM Yeah, my highest guess is that these are all aspects of my own consciousness which I am dealing with little by little. I feel very calm as of lately, and I'm very much at peace, so I'm not surprised I'm pulling a lot of karmic luggage I had from previous lives or what not up into my consciousness. I'm not stressed out about anal sex anyways. Even more so, all this stuff has begun happening at a time when my sex drive has calmed down, nothing really excites me anymore, not even sex. I have focused a lot more in my sadhana. In fact, I am not surprised that now that I have gained a semblance of sexual quietude all my sexual consciousness flares up in my dreams. Not only this anal sex thing in my dreams, but in my dreams I still have a sexual drive like I had here, and much to my surprise it comes in with a lot of wrath. Seems like the purification has gone over to the subtle bodies as well. Oh well. Whatever is happening will happen, I'm not worried. Thxs for your post b1-66er.
B1-66ER	Posted - Apr 23 2012 : 4:02:50 PM cff anal sex is extremely bad for you energetically creating a blockage in the release of shakti down the spine (every in-breath absorbs every out-breath releases). Do not practice it, you are being subverted by said reptilian Yogi who is in fact just another aspect of your own consciousness.
karl	Posted - Apr 13 2012 : 04:20:52 AM quote: Originally posted by cosmic Time to find a new guru AUM LOL excellent !
cosmic	Posted - Apr 12 2012 : 11:03:40 PM Time to find a new guru AUM
axelschlotzhauer	Posted - Apr 12 2012 : 12:23:10 PM Well you substitute the granthi experience (producing astrally blocks?) with others. I would be cautious without intuition and seeing of the third eye to limit you to the second chakra. Manipura seems already partly active as the kundalini path of most men. But you are right as the second chakra relates to water and the bija syllable vam. AYP uses by silence and breath the whole spine and chakras and bothers not much on siddhis and dreams with content difficult to verify. An open third eye is better. Axel
cff	Posted - Apr 12 2012 : 09:27:23 AM To alex: At time I have dreams in places which seem quite heavenly to be honest. Where everyone can do whatever they want unabided, where there are yogis meditating; one time I was traveling to see Master Kuthumi. Is this in a heavenly place? I know it was master kuthumi because when I began approaching the temple I seemed to be headed to, some angelic voices would sing Master Kuthumi. In fact, most of these dreams, my body moves on its own, I have no control over it. I call it auto-mode. I become somewhat of a spectator. And I'm happy that way since I wouldn't know where to go anyways nor why I go there. In fact, the dream ended shortly after I entered the temple. It probably is just levels of my subconscious mind or me remembering certain details, who knows.
cff	Posted - Apr 12 2012 : 09:23:13 AM Describing the process: Sometimes, after a dream of sorts, my kundalini begins to rise. I feel vibration at the level of the sacrum, when this happens, I almost become paralyzed because it becomes very uncomfortable that I move or change positions. So my sacrum begins vibrating, the vibration goes up my spine. But it blocks around the area of swadistan chakra. That's the experience. While in the astral, I've had it go all the way up and down to anja chakra without a problem, but in the physical it blocks. About the anal stuff, it may be that I'm just being tested on trust. To Inner Silence: The other day, I meet a master (in my dreams), who knows all the Gitas. I thought to this moment there was just the Bhagavad Gita; well, he began to chant to me another Gita, called the Bone Gita. Interesting stuff. That same dream, at the end, that master extends his tongue and it goes into my mouth and he does Kechari Mudra with his tongue which I feel crawling all the way up into my brain. Upon stimulating that spot, my head begins to have flashes of light being set off. Weird dreams mang...