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with additions, see the AYP
Easy Lessons for Ecstatic Living Books.
Orgasm, Vajroli and the Nectar Cycle
Date: Mar 5, 2009
New Members: It is recommended you read from the beginning of this tantra yoga archive, as
previous lessons are prerequisite to this one. The first lesson is, "What is tantra yoga?"
Q: Twenty some years ago, I was meditating and I was very
surprised, to put it mildly, when I had an orgasm, and nothing came out! It
was the most exquisitely delightful and pleasurable I'd ever had, by far, as
well you must know. I was also completely dumbfounded because I had never
heard of such a thing happening, nor did I know anyone who did. A book I was
reading described the vajroli process as being about becoming an urdhvareta
(one whose sexual energy is flowing upward), though it didn't even
consciously register when I read it. Of course, now, what I wanted more than
anything was to have that experience again, over and over, but it seemed
that the more I tried, the more it didn't happen.
I've experimented around with Taoist yoga/tantric practices, and those
practices seemed similar, but never led to anything close to that first
vajroli experience. Mostly, I found them to be interesting, and I knew
sexual energy and the ecstasy possible in meditation were one and the same.
I guess they could best be described using your terminology: pre-orgasmic.
It never occurred to me to try to develop that.
Doing the style of meditation that brought the first experience over the
years, sometimes twice a day, usually once, the ecstatic experience came
about two more times. Not a lot, that's for sure, but I'd never found
another way. When I stumbled upon your writings, I was quite amazed to find
my experiences talked about openly by someone who knew about them, and I've
gotten the impression that those experiences can be directly sought after,
and eventually one can live in that ecstasy all the time. Since discovering
the AYP writings, I've found that the I AM meditation is very powerful, and
surprisingly difficult. The Kundalini energy does easily activate in the
spinal breathing. The style of meditation I have used for many years seems
gentler, easier, even though the meditation time is longer - I usually
mediate for 40 minutes, or longer if my knees can take it.
I tried, and found, that doing the I AM meditation and my old style of
meditation is too much. So, I've reached a point where I have to decide to
go one way, or the other. Your thoughts were pretty clear about that dilemma
early in the lessons - if you have something that works, stick with it (Main
Lesson 19). Now, I know my old style of meditation works, and I
have stuck with it. However, I recently retired and decided what I really
want to do before I die is to seek with all my energy to complete that
vajroli process, to have the experience daily, all the time, and perhaps 3
times in over twenty years isn't enough and won't get me there, although
even three times is worth millions.
A: Thanks much for your kind note and sharing.
The way we look at vajroli in AYP is as a constituent part of the
neurobiology of enlightenment, the part associated with rising sexual
essences in the "nectar cycle," as discussed in Main
We regard vajroli mainly as an effect of core practices, which only then can
become an effective cause feeding into the overall rise of ecstatic
conductivity (kundalini). Approaching vajroli as a primary cause can lead to
excessive focus on "mechanical vajroli." In AYP the focus is on core
practices (deep meditation, spinal breathing pranayama, etc.), leading to
"natural vajroli," which is the ongoing 24/7 rise of ecstatic energies in
the neurobiology, as discussed in Tantra Lesson 60.
So I think you have the right approach focusing on your core sitting
practices, rather than pursuing mechanical vajroli.
As for what AYP might add to your process, that is really up to you. If you
have a method of meditation that works well for you, cultivating abiding
inner silence, then it is not for me to encourage you otherwise. I would
caution you not to "double up" with similar practices from different
systems, as this can lead to overloads. You found this out about using two
styles of meditation already. The same goes for pranayama, mudras and
bandhas, etc. However, if you find elements in AYP that are not in your
current routine, you may be able to add components that will enhance your
As for nudging the vajroli process along in concert with other practices, do
continue your study of AYP Tantra lessons, and also the main lessons on
mudras, bandhas, siddhasana (especially), and other "stimulative" practice
add-ons that might fit into your routine without doubling up on practices
you are already doing. All of these things can accelerate the rise of
ecstatic conductivity and natural vajroli. Be sure to self-pace for comfort
and safety. Just because you have more time does not mean unlimited
practice. There is a limit to what each of us can assimilate in a given
time, and you will find out where your boundaries are. The rest of your time
can be spent usefully in study, self-inquiry, and service, all which are
important components of our path when we become naturally inclined to engage
in them without forcing.
Further questions on vajroli and all practices can be covered much more
thoroughly in the AYP Support Forums,
where many can help and benefit from the discussions. In fact, if you do a
few searches there, you will find that many discussions on vajroli and
related aspects of practice have occurred there already.
If "dry orgasm" is something you are interested in exploring further, see
As you will see, multiple dry orgasms are actually a fairly rudimentary
stage of the journey. Once established, natural vajroli is something that is
going on all the time, and though it could be said to be "orgasmic," it
doesn't ever end, so it isn't viewed as a peak experience anymore. It is
just life in the ongoing process of ecstatic bliss and outpouring divine
love, occurring constantly in our abiding inner silence. In AYP, we also
call this "stillness in action," and it brings much joy and goodness into
our life, and into the world around us.
Wishing you all the best on your continuing path. Enjoy!
The guru is in you.
instructions on the methods of tantra in relation to the broad scope of yoga
practices and the enlightenment process,
see the AYP Tantra book.
discussion on the neurobiology of the nectar cycle, see the Diet,
Shatkarmas and Amaroli book.
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